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Homoeopathy on the NHS

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    #61
    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Funny thing with the placebo effect. A group of people were given morphine or a morphine placebo. They were then given a drug that stops the action of morphine - they didn't know what the drug was for. A significant number of peole who'd had the morphine placebo, reported that the pain returned.

    So it looks like the placebo effect could be caused by the body releasing its own morphine like substances - endorphins.
    There is a fantastic book written by a doctor who was held in a Japanese POW camp in the war. It's a true story detailing when he was made prison doctor by the Japanese, even though he had no medicines etc. All he had was water....but he didn't tell the other POW's that. It's truly amazing what he was able to do.

    The name of the book escapes me...I'll dig it out and pass it on. I highly recommend it - it is a fascinating read.
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      #62
      Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
      There is a fantastic book written by a doctor who was held in a Japanese POW camp in the war. It's a true story detailing when he was made prison doctor by the Japanese, even though he had no medicines etc. All he had was water....but he didn't tell the other POW's that. It's truly amazing what he was able to do.
      Assuming the water is clean, or that he had a means of purefying it (sieving and boiling) he would be able to offer a lot of help in terms of treating wounds and most bowel infections. Of course, by manipulating the placebo effect he would be able to help even more people.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #63
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        Assuming the water is clean, or that he had a means of purefying it (sieving and boiling) he would be able to offer a lot of help in terms of treating wounds and most bowel infections. Of course, by manipulating the placebo effect he would be able to help even more people.
        It was the placebo effect...that is the point of the book.
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          #64
          Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
          There is a fantastic book written by a doctor who was held in a Japanese POW camp in the war. It's a true story detailing when he was made prison doctor by the Japanese, even though he had no medicines etc. All he had was water....but he didn't tell the other POW's that. It's truly amazing what he was able to do.

          The name of the book escapes me...I'll dig it out and pass it on. I highly recommend it - it is a fascinating read.
          I'm told the local homeopathy hospital actually has a very good success rate for certain conditions for these reasons,.

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