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    #21
    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
    More doom Sally.
    Just answer one question. Have you ever seen a rugby player that looks like Kate Moss ? no.
    Therefore it's logic.
    Take the dysentry pills, poo for Britain, forget exercise and watch the pounds just fall out.



    Most professional rugby players have a fat percentage below 12%, including front row forwards; they look huge on TV (and are indeed quite big), but many are actually quite slim when you see them. Not Kate Moss slim though, but she looks like a survivor from Sobibor.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #22
      Originally posted by Pogle View Post
      And that has proved SO successful - hasnt it?
      I know many people who have lost weight - only to put it AND more back on.
      I know someone who went on Lighterlife and lost half his body weight consuming only 475 calories a day for about 8 months, but put it all back on. I dare anyone to say he has no willpower!
      Dealing with Obesity is a complex issue and if you look around you'll see that shouting at people to eat less and exercise more is frankly not effective.
      The problem is though Pogle that losing half your body weight in 8 months is a recipe for disaster, the body reacts badly to massive swings in diet which is probably why the person in question put all of the weight back on, plus some.

      As much as I appreciate the complexities, the only longterm solution is a lifestyle change, which does mean eating less (or at the very least more healthily) and exercising more. Depending on the starting conditions that could be as simple as taking the stairs rather than the lift and graduating from there.

      Ultimately any 'quick fix' or crash diet is likely to end up in putting the weight back on.
      Proud owner of +5 Xeno Geek Points

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        #23
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        Most professional rugby players have a fat percentage below 12%, including front row forwards; they look huge on TV (and are indeed quite big), but many are actually quite slim when you see them. Not Kate Moss slim though, but she looks like a survivor from Sobibor.
        You seam to be showing an unhealthy interest in professional rugby players
        Fiscal nomad it's legal.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pogle View Post
          And that has proved SO successful - hasnt it?
          I know many people who have lost weight - only to put it AND more back on.
          I know someone who went on Lighterlife and lost half his body weight consuming only 475 calories a day for about 8 months, but put it all back on. I dare anyone to say he has no willpower!
          Dealing with Obesity is a complex issue and if you look around you'll see that shouting at people to eat less and exercise more is frankly not effective.
          As someone else said, eating 475 calories a day is recipe for disaster. It's more than that, it's idiotic.
          Reading the LighterLife website, they recommend 'taking it easy' on exercise whilst on their diet but caveating that with a big 'Exercise is important' strapline. How much exercise did your friend do? Not much, I'll bet.

          You might lose a bit of weight with 'miracle' diets/pills but you'll put it back on. There is no substitute for a balanced diet and lots of exercise. It really is that simple, and in my experience fat people look for any excuse - 'it's genetic', or 'it's more complex than that' etc etc.

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ot-enough.html

          Fat f**kers - why should I pay tax so these useless idiots benefit from it?

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            #25
            Originally posted by interested View Post
            As someone else said, eating 475 calories a day is recipe for disaster. It's more than that, it's idiotic.
            Reading the LighterLife website, they recommend 'taking it easy' on exercise whilst on their diet but caveating that with a big 'Exercise is important' strapline. How much exercise did your friend do? Not much, I'll bet.

            You might lose a bit of weight with 'miracle' diets/pills but you'll put it back on. There is no substitute for a balanced diet and lots of exercise. It really is that simple, and in my experience fat people look for any excuse - 'it's genetic', or 'it's more complex than that' etc etc.

            Fat f**kers - why should I pay tax so these useless idiots benefit from it?

            I am certainly not advocating this type of diet, frankly I think its crazy, but the point I was making (albit badly ) was that not all overweight people are happy with the situation and many try to do something about it. What about all the people who have lost weight on a healthy diet + exercise regime, only to gain it again? It is a complex issue and frankly tw@ts such as your self make me want to vomit. (but dont worry I'm not bulimic)
            I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pogle View Post
              I am certainly not advocating this type of diet, frankly I think its crazy, but the point I was making (albit badly ) was that not all overweight people are happy with the situation and many try to do something about it. What about all the people who have lost weight on a healthy diet + exercise regime, only to gain it again? It is a complex issue and frankly tw@ts such as your self make me want to vomit. (but dont worry I'm not bulimic)
              It's not complex at all. Eat more sensibly and exercise more.

              Frankly I am sick of hearing fatties moan about being fat when the answer is so simple.

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                #27
                Originally posted by interested View Post
                It's not complex at all. Eat more sensibly and exercise more.

                Frankly I am sick of hearing fatties moan about being fat when the answer is so simple.
                Bluntly put, but I agree.

                I have always been a little overweight and done just that. Being on the bench has given me a chance to get off my @rse and do something about it. I am now comfortably running 4x30 mins a week and hope to be tackling a 10K in the next month or so.

                I'm also a big pharma shareholder so quite happy with the prospect of these pills being pushed and popped by as many people as possible. Should give me a nice divi income through my (fat free) retirement.
                Last edited by moorfield; 18 March 2009, 17:38.

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                  #28
                  It's not complex at all. Eat more sensibly and exercise more.
                  Good simple advice, but it took me 15 years to realise that fad diets, diet pills etc are not the way to go. It took an insurance medical and a 50% loading on my premium to wake me up. Been exercising and eating more sensibly for 6 months, and am now approaching a target BMI where the insurance company will reduce my premiums.
                  SUFTUM

                  May life give you what you need, rather than what you want....

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