Smoking Poll

[Foxy Moron]

I bet it's not the only thing he's been forced to do

[fckvwls]

I bet it's not the only thing he's been forced to do

[Mich the Tester]

Tolerance for those forcing me to passive smoke. No chance.

Nobody is forcing you to ‘passive smoke’. You have a choice whether to visit a place where people are smoking. You are not bound by chains to stand in the same building as smokers, and until you are you have no right to accuse other people of forcing you to ‘passive smoke’. You have a choice whether to apply for work in a pub which allows smoking; the law protects this choice. Your argument is based on a lie; you lie that you are being ‘forced’ to do something while you have free will to avoid that which you dislike. No smoker has campaigned for pubs to be forced to allow smoking. No drinker has campaigned for tea-totallers to be obliged to take up the booze. YOU, however, wish to FORCE people, using the full power of the state, to give up a habit which indeed risks their health, and indeed is stupid, but which they have chosen through their own free will. YOU wish to FORCE the owners of businesses and the premises in which they live to cease offering their hospitality to those who would smoke tobacco. You then attempt to twist the facts to assume the role of the oppressed when in fact you have the full power of the state defending your ‘rights’ at the expense of others.

You, Sir, are a liar and a tyrant with no comprehension of tolerance or liberty. Smoking might present a danger to your health, and it’s a danger that you can choose to avoid. YOU, however, alongside Mr Brown and his cronies, present a danger to the values of tolerance and liberty with your lies, and nobody has the means to avoid that danger without uprooting and moving to another country where they might not be welcome.

Hell, I don’t smoke anymore, but you might start me with your lies.

[EternalOptimist]

[fckvwls]

Nobody is forcing you to ‘passive smoke’. You have a choice whether to visit a place where people are smoking. You are not bound by chains to stand in the same building as smokers, and until you are you have no right to accuse other people of forcing you to ‘passive smoke’.

So by that logic public places are for everyone who either smokes or doesn't mind passive smoking.

You have a choice whether to apply for work in a pub which allows smoking; the law protects this choice.

I can see the advert now. Great working environment, only those that are too stupid to know the dangers of passive smoking need apply. We do not accept liability for ensuring that you are subjected to passive smoke that WILL increase your chances of a premature trip to the grave.

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If I am unable to prevent the inhalation of smoke in a public place then I am being forced to passive smoke.

[Francko]

I can see the advert now. Great working environment, only those that are too stupid to know the dangers of passive smoking need apply.

Smokers ignore the risks of smoking and so they do for passive smoking. As an ex smokers you start to actually understand and face these risks and start reading about. If smokers were not that addicted to such drug they would understand that passive smoking in a closed place is much worse than active smoking. A pity that it is quite common that smokers close their eyes on all information about smoking.

[Foxy Moron]

Mich, very well said

[Mich the Tester]

If I am unable to prevent the inhalation of smoke in a public place then I am being forced to passive smoke.

A PRIVATE BUSINESS IS NOT A PUBLIC PLACE. It is a property in which the owner CHOOSES TO INVITE (not forces) people to enter and purchase whatever services the owner is offering.

[Zippy]

I think the results would be interesting if certain pubs (say 1/3 of the pubs in a town) permitted smoking. The fact that they were smoking pubs would be well-publicised to protect non-smokers from an accidental whiff of burning tobacco. Non-smoking pubs would not even permit smoking outside for the same reason.

Now - of the smoking/non-smoking pubs who will still be in business in 12 months time?

[fckvwls]

snip

I think you need a smoke to calm down. Please stick to the designated smoking area and be careful of blowing downwind in case there are innocent civilians about.

HTH