Recession and Music

[SizeZero]

I just hope it doesn't lead to more (c)rap music as more and more areas become ghettos. Or spawn more UB40 types bands (although Red, Red Whine could be the next election song for Broon & Co)

[expat]

Does a crap economy bring out the best in British Music? The 70s had Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and so on.

60s.

Led Zeppelin, formed 1968, first album 1969.
Deep Purple, formed 1968, first album 1968.
Black Sabbath, formed 1968, first album 1970.

And I won't even mention Pink Floyd, Cream, Hendrix, Beatles, Stones, Who, Kinks, Yardbirds, ho hum ad infinitum...

[lambrini_socialist]

Does a crap economy bring out the best in British Music?

not according to Simon Reynolds:

Fact is, you can generally bend the socioeconomic evidence to suit whatever argument you seek to make. There is nearly always a sense of malaise and crisis going on in the world, on some level or other..

Britpop can be taken (depending on your musical sympathies) as either the UK getting its groove on again, feeling cocky and invincible, preparing the ground for New Labour, or as a self-deluding spasm reliant on recycling ideas from earlier phases of England's pop glory and on the artificial ebullience of cocaine, and as such merely mirroring Blair & Co's style-over- substance and empty rhetoric of renewal.

[Mich the Tester]

60s.

Led Zeppelin, formed 1968, first album 1969.
Deep Purple, formed 1968, first album 1968.
Black Sabbath, formed 1968, first album 1970.

Yep, but my point is that these guys really got big in the 70s, and besides, Black Sabbath came from Birmingham, which was in economic doom ever since the war.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here in the hope that some bunch of bored teenagers who can't afford a haircut can produce a really good song to remember forever.

[minestrone]

I think we are getting old.

[Mich the Tester]

not according to Simon Reynolds:

So I am hoping in vain?

I hope you're wrong mate, because Dutch music is tulipe. OK, Herman Brood was brilliant, but he's dead. Bettie Serveert were good but I think they've given up now, and Golden Earring have got their bus passes. Everything here's just grotty crooning rubbish that wouldn't pass muster at a Butlins talent show.

England must surely still be the world's great hope for music?

[Foxy Moron]

not according to Simon Reynolds:

I hated Britpop (shi7pop), especially Suede. I feel sick now

[expat]

Yep, but my point is that these guys really got big in the 70s, and besides, Black Sabbath came from Birmingham, which was in economic doom ever since the war.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here in the hope that some bunch of bored teenagers who can't afford a haircut can produce a really good song to remember forever.

Looks like the bands form in the good times, but don't get appreciated till the bad times? So hard luck, what you see now is all there is for the next few years.

[lambrini_socialist]

I hated Britpop (shi7pop), especially Suede. I feel sick now

ditto, but i'm a guitarophobe full stop

[Foxy Moron]

The Beatles would not make it today. They haven't got the look, the x-factor. Forget songwriting, we can do a cover, bound to get to number 1, we had a free advert for 3 months.

Yours
Simon (zig n zag) Cowell