Death of Capitalism?

[expat]

We used to live in a capitalist democracy. The last twelve years has turned it into an almost communist state...

Oh, that is frankly unhelpful rubbish.

You do not like much of what this government does (neither do I as it happens). You are possibly troubled by things like apparently retrospective legislation and spread of surveillance.

But where is this communism of which you speak? These things that I presume you dislike are being done in other western democracies too. That doesn't make them right, but it does mean that they are not blatant communism washing over us under the heel of the NL boot .....

[Cyberman]

We are watching the death of a socialist party that have failed capitalism and the UK. Capitalism is fine and banks needed some form of regulation, but GB failed in order to create his credit boom. He kept house-prices out of his inflation index and we are reaping the 'rewards' of failed interest rate policy.

Capitalism will survive, but if you strangle companies by over-taxation in order to grow the state by massive proportions, you eventually get the results that we see today.

[DimPrawn]

But where is this communism of which you speak?

More and more centralised government control.
Terror laws, loss of freedoms, increase in state powers over the ordinary citizen.
Massive increase in public sector workers (ie. people working for the state).
State buying up banks.
Surveillance society
Government databases, DNA databases, ID Cards




All smacks of Communism to me.

[PM-Junkie]

More and more centralised government control.
Terror laws, loss of freedoms, increase in state powers over the ordinary citizen.
Massive increase in public sector workers (ie. people working for the state).
State buying up banks.
Surveillance society
Government databases, DNA databases, ID Cards




All smacks of Communism to me.

Oh dear - showing your ignorance again. That is totalitarianism, not communism.

[DimPrawn]

Oh dear - showing your ignorance again. That is totalitarianism, not communism.

Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a concept used to describe political systems whereby a state regulates nearly every aspect of public and private life. Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror tactics. The term has been applied to many states, including: the Soviet Union,...


And the Soviet Union was.......

[PM-Junkie]

And the Soviet Union was.......

....a totalitarian regime which practiced elements of communism.

[ratewhore]

Oh, that is frankly unhelpful rubbish.

Unhelpful to what? It is an opinion, to which I'm entitled. Now stick that up your hoop you self-important farkwit...

[expat]

Unhelpful to what? It is an opinion, to which I'm entitled. Now stick that up your hoop you self-important farkwit...

Absolutely.

But it is rubbish because it is not only false but baseless and I suspect thoughtless; and it is unhelpful because it does not illuminate the situation or describe it with any degree of accuraccy or insight.

And you are being rude, whereas I am just being critical.

[ratewhore]

And you are being rude, whereas I am just being critical.

I think you'll find I'm right - in the same way Jeremy Clarkson was right...

[expat]

I think you'll find I'm right - in the same way Jeremy Clarkson was right...

Clarkson was right? When? Damn, I missed that!