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How on earth do we get out of this economic meltdown mess?

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    #11
    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    But WW2 did get the world out of recession : the uk has been going downhill for the last 100 years.
    Utter tosh. WW2 virtually bankrupted Britain. The only country to do well out of it economically was the USA. And Germany and Japan of course.

    Perhaps the best thing we can do is start a war then lose it?
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      #12
      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
      But WW2 did get the world out of recession : the uk has been going downhill for the last 100 years.
      The recession ended before WW2 and by 1937 unemployment had dropped to 1,5 million. The outbreak of WW2 brought in conscription and the remaining unemployed went into the forces. The balance of payments were in the black from mid 1930s to 1939. In 1945, the UK was in the red.
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #13
        Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
        Utter tosh. WW2 virtually bankrupted Britain. The only country to do well out of it economically was the USA. And Germany and Japan of course.

        Perhaps the best thing we can do is start a war then lose it?
        Then we'll have to lose to a country that bombs us to f***, and is rich enough to pay for all the rebuilding.

        It might also help if we carried out genocide on someone. How about socialists?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Paddy View Post
          The recession ended before WW2 and by 1937 unemployment had dropped to 1,5 million. The outbreak of WW2 brought in conscription and the remaining unemployed went into the forces. The balance of payments were in the black from mid 1930s to 1939. In 1945, the UK was in the red.
          and the $5 billion (equivalent to $50 billion today) loaned to us in 1946 by the US and Canada was repaid in full only two years ago - just in time for another huge loan, if the Yanks still have any cash spare
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            #15
            Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
            Utter tosh. WW2 virtually bankrupted Britain.
            But at least it taught the population that they should live on this year's income, not continually spend next year's, the year's after that, their children's income .... before they had actually received it.

            tim

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              #16
              Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
              Utter tosh. WW2 virtually bankrupted Britain. The only country to do well out of it economically was the USA. And Germany and Japan of course.

              Perhaps the best thing we can do is start a war then lose it?
              I dont sisagree with the bold bit.

              Britain caused WW2 by being far too tough on Germany after WW1. Though we were far too nice after WW2. All our best brains went into the military : Japan and Germany had no military drain and put all their efforts into industry.

              Its a pity that we could not have done as well as the USA though : but as I said Britain has been going downhill for last 100 years.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                I dont sisagree with the bold bit.

                Britain caused WW2 by being far too tough on Germany after WW1. Though we were far too nice after WW2. All our best brains went into the military : Japan and Germany had no military drain and put all their efforts into industry.

                Its a pity that we could not have done as well as the USA though : but as I said Britain has been going downhill for last 100 years.
                We were not tough enough with the Nazis - how could you possibly appease a Tryant as Hitler was ?

                Churchill saw Hitler for what he was - a Dictator who had to be destroyed to protect the freedom and liberty of all Europeans.

                As to the notion that we were 'too nice' to the Nazis after the war - this is untrue Churchill wanted to punish Germany severely at the end of the War - he was overuled by the US in the form of the Marshall Plan.

                Ditto for the tragic error of sacrificing Poland to Stalin - this was the work of the US and was completely against the wishes of Britain.
                Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 15 February 2009, 18:35.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  Britain caused WW2 by being far too tough on Germany after WW1.
                  Probably the dumbest thing I have yet read on these boards....and that is quite an achievement. Well done.
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                    Why on Earth is sex between two underaged people a "serious crime"? I guess being pretty right wing myself and agreeing with some of your principles has blinded me to what others have been saying here for ages, namely that you really are a prize pillock.



                    The case rests. There really is no hope for this society if we allow all kids under legal age to sleep with eachother and have babies.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BrilloPad
                      Britain caused WW2 by being far too tough on Germany after WW1.
                      Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                      Probably the dumbest thing I have yet read on these boards....and that is quite an achievement. Well done.
                      Not really, it is fairly well-known that it was the biggest factor.

                      The Treaty of Versailles, including the reparations demanded by the allies, sent Germany into economic collapse. The Nazi party gained popular support for promising to make Germany great again, and to take back what had been taken from them.

                      That is why, after WW2, the allies instead helped rebuild Germany.

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