scrum masters

[NotAllThere]

These were the same flipers that caused untold misery with design patterns for about a decade, this is their new mechanism of workplace torture.

I used the state design pattern the other day. Most helpful it was. Saved me a few hours of work.

... one-on-one tackling coaching sessions.

You are bicurious then.

[swamp]

The fence is a row of spikes in preparation for the next sprint on the burndown chart. It's a long story, indeed a big task to tell to the customer, maybe even a technical debt. We should be able to pair on this and with a bit of ping-pong programming we can refactor to a suitable pattern.

[bogeyman]

Oh yeah!!! Bring on that Agile methods bollocks!!! You did the right thing by walking from that interview. You be the pig, I'll be the chicken and we'll both take out the scrum-master with sharpened pencils.

Really - in all my days as a PM this has Agile/scrum crap has to be the stupidest, insulting and down right dumb rehash of common sense I have ever had the misfortune to come across. But I'm not alone as plenty of other pro PMs and PGM mgrs won't go near it with yours.

If I ever worked on a project where it was proposed to use such methods I really hope I'd have the dignity to get up, and walk straight out.

I like your style Svalbaard

[expat]

The fence is a row of spikes in preparation for the next sprint on the burndown chart. It's a long story, indeed a big task to tell to the customer, maybe even a technical debt. We should be able to pair on this and with a bit of ping-pong programming we can refactor to a suitable pattern.

Where da "retch" smiley?

[swamp]

Where da "retch" smiley?

Best I can do.

The sort of people who really dig Agile and Scrum and XP and all goes with it are the sort of people who attend flash mob events at Kings Cross station.

[Zippy]

Best I can do.

The sort of people who really dig Agile and Scrum and XP and all goes with it are the sort of people who attend flash mob events at Kings Cross station.

Rubbish. I do get depressed with the idea that there is 'One True Path' and anybody who disagrees is a thicko or a heretic.
Just don't treat methodologies like a religion and you'll find that there are useful bits and not-so-useful bits in all of them. You still can't escape the fact that you have to be a competant PM/developer/tester whatever you use, and as so many of us are not, many projects fail.

[bogeyman]

Rubbish. I do get depressed with the idea that there is 'One True Path' and anybody who disagrees is a thicko or a heretic.
Just don't treat methodologies like a religion and you'll find that there are useful bits and not-so-useful bits in all of them. You still can't escape the fact that you have to be a competant PM/developer/tester whatever you use, and as so many of us are not, many projects fail.

Methodologies only exist so that snake oil companies can sell absurdly expensive training courses and documentation.

Miss the last hot methodology? Don't worry, there'll be another one along in a minute.

Amazing how NASA put men on the moon without a single methodology.

[Drewster]

Amazing how NASA put men on the moon without a single methodology.

I really hate to write anything that could be interpreted as in defence or support of any "flavour of the month methodology" (particularly "Agile")

but I don't think "throw endless amounts of money and resources at the problem and keep pushing ahead no matter the risks involved - and somehow not manage to kill anyone, just to beat the Commies in a pissing contest" is something to be encouraged........

[DiscoStu]

I really hate to write anything that could be interpreted as in defence or support of any "flavour of the month methodology" (particularly "Agile")

but I don't think "throw endless amounts of money and resources at the problem and keep pushing ahead no matter the risks involved - and somehow not manage to kill anyone, just to beat the Commies in a pissing contest" is something to be encouraged........

Of course it's to be encouraged - endless budget & resources in a project sounds like a contractor gravy train to me

[bogeyman]

I really hate to write anything that could be interpreted as in defence or support of any "flavour of the month methodology" (particularly "Agile")

but I don't think "throw endless amounts of money and resources at the problem and keep pushing ahead no matter the risks involved - and somehow not manage to kill anyone, just to beat the Commies in a pissing contest" is something to be encouraged........

Actually, check the facts.

The amount of money spent was comparatively tiny. More money was spent in the USA by women buying lipstick in the same period.

Yes, they took risks (something that is anathema today).

It wasn't a pissing contest IMO. It was, and remains, mankinds' finest acheivement.

Those chaps knew how to do things, and do them right. It's an art we have lost.

We are bogged down and hog-tied by regulations and methodologies - the killers of creativity and originality.

NASA has lost more lives since they introduced bullshyte methodologies than they did in the pioneering days.