Anyone signed on the dole while benched?

[Cyberman]

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This is ridiculous. You lot are behaving like employees of your last clientCo.

One minute you are complaining about IR35, "I'm a proper company honest", then when things get bad you want the benefits of an employee.

Do you think the director of a "proper" company should sign on between sales? NO
They should be doing all they can to maximise the profits of the company.

</tantrum>

We are employees of our limited companies and pay NI as employees. That was the case before IR35 and remains, so IR35 is irrelevant. IR35 determines whether you are PAYE on a contract by contract basis. You obviously have little understanding.

[Rookie]

The OP's company is not dormant, nor has he been issued a P45. Taking these steps with the sole purpose of claiming benefits should be seen for what it is; cheating the system.

Cheating the system???? You are funny.

[Ravello]

Yes they do. If you're employed then you can't get the dole. If you're not employed while your employer is between clients, then either you or your company is a con. Finding the next client is part of the job, it's one of the things that you are employed for.

And someone who has paid tax and NI for 35 years is entitled to something: the protection of the welfare state. Same as everybody else.

We're saying the same thing Expat.

[Archangel]

Yes they do. If you're employed then you can't get the dole. If you're not employed while your employer is between clients, then either you or your company is a con. Finding the next client is part of the job, it's one of the things that you are employed for.

And someone who has paid tax and NI for 35 years is entitled to something: the protection of the welfare state. Same as everybody else.

When I worked in the building industry (on site electrician) the company I worked for was constantly "laying off" its employees when it was "between clients" (i.e. didn't have any contracts). The employees then signed on until the company got some more work in, they then signed off and started work again. this ensured the NI stamp was paid and some money was coming in.

Also, the amount of money in the company is irrelevent, I have shares in BT, but if I was on the dole, the money in BT's coffers would be irrelevent. The income in dividends, however, may not be.

[Ravello]

Cheating the system???? You are funny.

You're not.

[pmeswani]

I thought the whole POINT of the welfare system was to provide support to those who otherwise couldn't support themselves. Not to "take advantage" of the system because you happened to have contributed towards it.

With all fairness, there are a lot of people who choose not to support themselves and therefore decide to rely on those who do contribute to the system to fund their chosen lifestyle. Why should those who contributed and then find themselves out of work be worse off than those who choose to live off the taypaxers?

[Ardesco]

I see this thread has brought out all the wideboys and eijits who want something for nothing.......

[Rookie]

You're not.

Nice comeback. Took you all of ten minutes for that response? Talk about dumbing down.

[Cyberman]

The OP's company is not dormant, nor has he been issued a P45. Taking these steps with the sole purpose of claiming benefits should be seen for what it is; cheating the system.

Of course it isn't. If there is no work you need to feed yourself, the same as everybody else. You are thus working within the rules to be able to achieve this. Following your argument would mean that we could never close our companies down, and thus would starve to death. At some stage you have to make the decision that you are unlikely to find work and need help.

[Ardesco]

With all fairness, there are a lot of people who choose not to support themselves and therefore decide to rely on those who do contribute to the system to fund their chosen lifestyle. Why should those who contributed and then find themselves out of work be worse off than those who choose to live off the taypaxers?

Are you seriously telling me a contractor who has a nice stack of savings and money in his company is going to be worse off that some benefits chav if he does not claim benefits whilst looking for his next contract???

please.......