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The Queen "might be racist"

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    #11
    Queen racist? I say the whole damn lot of them are racist - just how many ethnic kings or queens have we had? Let me tell you - 0.

    A clear case of institutional racism if ever I saw one - we need to get Sir Ian Blair on the case right now.
    Bored.

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      #12
      Originally posted by chef View Post
      If your grandparents had slaves during your childhood or were openly racist towards others doesn't mean that you can keep slaves or be racist now, times change and things progress.

      I personally dont think "golliwogs" should be on sale at Buckingham palace but I also dont think its fair to call someone a racist for things that happened in the past during a time when it was socially accepted to own/want/sell golliwogs.

      Chef
      Absolutely. They are not of now, they are of the past.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ace00 View Post
        A clear case of institutional racism if ever I saw one - we need to get Sir Ian Blair on the case right now.
        Definately a case where positive discrimination could be used to address the injustice by making certain that the next king or queen is from the ethnic minorities.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
          Definately a case where positive discrimination could be used to address the injustice by making certain that the next king or queen is from the ethnic minorities.
          Definitely

          I may be wrong about the IR35 police but this time....

          Btw how's land of the long white cloud going?

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            #15
            Originally posted by ace00 View Post
            Queen racist? I say the whole damn lot of them are racist - just how many ethnic kings or queens have we had? Let me tell you - 0.
            Yeah, we might not have any that weren't white, but we've certainly tried out a few different nationalities over the years, sometimes with great success.

            As for gollies. It seems to me that we are simply instilling the belief in our children that it is actually illegal to cuddle coloured people.

            And what are toys like Barbie or Krusty The Clown or Bob The Builder if they're not caricatures?

            There was an interview this morning on the radio with the curator of the Museum of Childhood, and they asked her if black children were offended or shocked by the gollies they have on display and she basically said, "No not at all."

            I doubt if anyone is really offended by these things. It's just that some individuals (of all races) like to stir things up. We should simply ignore them. There are already plenty of laws to deal with genuine racist issues.

            Meanwhile, I'm glad we can just laugh at things like http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ Mainly because it's funny.

            #116 Black Music that Black People Don’t Listen to Anymore

            All music genres go through a very similar life cycle: birth, growth, mainstream acceptance, decline, and finally obscurity. With black music, however, the final stage is never reached because white people work tirelessly to keep it alive. Apparently, once a music has lost its relevance with its intended audience, it becomes MORE relevant to white people.
            etc

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              #16
              Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
              Definitely
              I remember double-checking that word before posting it a couple of days ago too, I repeatedly make that same error.

              Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
              I may be wrong about the IR35 police but this time....

              Btw how's land of the long white cloud going?
              OK so far - I am still in "having a long holiday" mode though. Note my comments in the "ethics" thread .

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ardesco View Post
                FFS I had a gollywog when I was little and it was a great toy, I never saw it as a racist statement.

                Those politically correct idiots should go **** themselves!!!
                From the Sun:

                Gollies began life in America in an 1899 story book by Florence Kate Upton.

                They were popularised in Britain by Enid Blyton’s books — and a Golly was the logo on Robertsons Jam jars until scrapped in 2002.
                As I kid I collected the labels from Robertsons Jam, and sent them off to get a series of Golly badges. Proper metal ones at that.
                Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GreenerGrass View Post
                  I felt physically sick when someone sent me this article, I feel the Royal Family no longer represents the multicultural people of Great Britain

                  http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...SS&ATTR=Royals
                  You're a sensitive soul aren't you? I'm surprised you've made it this far...
                  Older and ...well, just older!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dang65 View Post
                    Yeah, we might not have any that weren't white, but we've certainly tried out a few different nationalities over the years, sometimes with great success.

                    As for gollies. It seems to me that we are simply instilling the belief in our children that it is actually illegal to cuddle coloured people.
                    Like Baa Baa Black Sheep? The song (believe it or not - check out the words) celebrates diversity, and praises the contribution made by a coloured minority.

                    So the people who want to ban it, are banning what?

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                      #20
                      I suppose the dividing line here is whether you would be comfortable calling someone a 'w o g' as this is where the term comes from. I wouldn't.

                      As has been stated, it all stems from less enlightened times.
                      Last edited by Alf W; 5 February 2009, 10:25.
                      Guy Fawkes - "The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions."

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