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    #11
    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
    I once replied to jobserve advert that asked for SC, when it became apparent that the work involved a high street a retail chain I asked why they had stipulated SC? The pimp replied with “The PM thinks SC cleared candidates would be more trustworthy”.
    That truly deserves an 'Oh dear'!
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      #12
      Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
      If you have the necessary skills and experience, you'll get the gig. Those of us with clearance didn't have it once so there really is no argument...
      Yes there is

      Tight project deadlines mean that public sector bodies are reluctant to hire contractors with the right skills and put them through security clearances, which can take weeks or months to complete, according to recruitment agencies.
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        #13
        Originally posted by DiscoStu View Post
        That was 3 years ago, since then EDS and all the other Borg like corps have been putting people through left right and centre, it doesn't hold as much clout as it once did.
        Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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          #14
          Originally posted by DiscoStu View Post
          I'm referring to this point:

          A real Catch 22.... You need Clearance to get the role..... You can't get the role without Clearance.........
          Not true. I currently work in the public sector and hire in the public sector. I don't ignore people because they don't have current clearance, I will if they don't have the skills and experience.

          If an offer is made subject to clearance, some contractors will not wait for the clearance to come through. That's up to them and is the reality of it, whatever a 3 year old article in computerweekly says.
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            #15
            Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
            I'm referring to this point:



            Not true. I currently work in the public sector and hire in the public sector. I don't ignore people because they don't have current clearance, I will if they don't have the skills and experience.

            If an offer is made subject to clearance, some contractors will not wait for the clearance to come through. That's up to them and is the reality of it, whatever a 3 year old article in computerweekly says.
            I honestly (sic) believe you.... I think most Public Sector Managers would take on contractors with the right experience...... It is the pimps who are lying through thier teeth... "The client will only accept your cv if you have current clearance......"

            PS Its odd that you quoted DiscoStu IF you were referencing mine!

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              #16
              Originally posted by pmeswani View Post
              You will find jobs that are prepared to put you through SC Clearance. Because of the time it takes, you may end up waiting 3 to 6 months before it come through.... therefore, traditionally, some companies don't offer it on contracts that are less than 1 year.
              Which breaches the Cabinet Office guidelines, which says that the government should NOT ask for prior clearance unless it will take longer to come through than the project will last (i.e. a month or less).

              So, if you see job adverts which are restricting this, then you should ensure that you report the job advert and agency to the DBERR.
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                #17
                Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                Which breaches the Cabinet Office guidelines, which says that the government should NOT ask for prior clearance unless it will take longer to come through than the project will last (i.e. a month or less).

                So, if you see job adverts which are restricting this, then you should ensure that you report the job advert and agency to the DBERR.
                Like that will achieve anything.

                All they have to do is chuck the non Cleared CV's in the bin, it's not like they are short of applicants and unless the skills required are very niche there will be plenty suitable that meet the spec.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
                  I'm referring to this point:
                  Not true. I currently work in the public sector and hire in the public sector. I don't ignore people because they don't have current clearance, I will if they don't have the skills and experience.
                  So on average how many non cleared CVs make it as far as you for a role? I'm Just wondering because I have had nothing but call after call from agents that automatically dump the CV as soon as they find out that my clearance has lapsed.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by chris79 View Post
                    Anyone know how I can go about obtaining SC or CTC clearance? Quite a few jobs I've seen advertised require this.
                    Yes. Win a government contract.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chris79 View Post
                      I've got BC clearance, last gig wanted SC and I started the application but never got it submitted before I left. Wish I'd got it done now.
                      This is what you do:

                      Just lie to the pimp. Say you've got it. When you get your foot in the door the client will start you on a wavier process and you'll have your SC before the end of the contract.
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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