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Peston being investigated !!

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    #11
    Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
    Er, aren't those exactly the people that voted in Maggie, of whom you are so fond?
    Yes! That was okay but then they voted in Major who was a total disaster.

    To be fair the opposition was not up to much.....

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      #12
      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
      Yes! That was okay but then they voted in Major who was a total disaster.

      To be fair the opposition was not up to much.....
      I think that this is a little harsh on the sun readers - they have consistently voted for whoever Rupert Murdoch tells them to vote for. Credit where credit is due.

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        #13
        Originally posted by zeitghost
        I was thinking that...

        A bit like being tortured by a butterfly...
        Or in the words of Dennis Healey "Savaged by a dead sheep"

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          #14
          Read about the things that happen throughout the world
          Don't be believe in everything you see or hear
          The neighbours talk day in day out about the goings on
          They tell us what they want - they don't give an inch

          Look at the pictures taken by the cameras they cannot lie
          The truth is in what you see - not what you read
          Little men tapping things out - points of view
          Remember their views are not the gospel truth

          Don't believe it all
          Find out for yourself
          Check before you spread
          News of the world

          Never doubt
          Never ask
          Never moan
          Never search
          Never find
          Never know

          Each morning our key to the world comes through the door
          More than often its just a comic, not much more
          Don't take it too serious - not many do
          Read between the lines and you'll find the truth

          Read all about it, read all about it - news of the world
          "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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            #15
            He won't respond to this thread. He only does soundbites and propaganda. Borderline autistic, but certainly not a sevant

            Of course Nick is spot on here.
            The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

            But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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              #16
              Originally posted by NF : It's not as clear cut as you suggest.

              It's not about what is reported, but about how it is reported.

              As a simple example, consider these two sentences about the same event:

              "Protestors marched to Westminster."

              "Protestors marched on Westminster."

              The second version carries overtones suggesting that said protestors are some kind of threat to the orderly governance of the nation, verging on being a mob. This will tend to influence readers who believe in respect for the State and for the rule of Law against them and, by extension, their cause.

              Yet both sentences report the same fact, and they differ only in one two-letter word (and in only one letter).

              Of course this is a very obvious example. Read Porter's book for more subtle and egregious cases.
              A good example Nick.

              So one buys both papers, and sees both sides of the reporting. How does that really help discern the true nature of the event, if both events are reported as you suggested ?

              No wonder some people are fed up and alienated by politics and the media, and prefer to live their lives "disconnected" from the mess.
              Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

              C.S. Lewis

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                #17
                Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
                A good example Nick.

                So one buys both papers, and sees both sides of the reporting. How does that really help discern the true nature of the event, if both events are reported as you suggested ?

                No wonder some people are fed up and alienated by politics and the media, and prefer to live their lives "disconnected" from the mess.
                Seeing two sides to the presentation of the same subject is a good start, because it instils the knowledge that there can be several ways of presenting the same thing. At least you know then to expect everything you read to be only partially true and useful in a wider sense, even if it is true in a literal sense.

                The Guardian had an excellent TV ad years ago that made this point: briefly, in the ad you saw a suit-and-tie gentleman walking along the street, and a young man running towards him and knocking him heavily to the ground.

                After the blurb about seeing the whole picture, you see the scene again, with one more second of action: a heavy load falls crashing from the removers' crane on to the spot where the gentleman was a second ago.

                PS found it on YouTube, of course.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3bfO1rE7Yg
                Last edited by expat; 22 January 2009, 11:49.

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                  #18
                  Working in the scientific arena you come to realise the difference between factual and normative statements. The media is fonder of the later.

                  Ironically the media loves to report science in a normative manner
                  The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                  But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                    #19
                    So Peston didn't mean to cause panic throughout the banking system. It was just the way that the public interpreted it. He is such a poor misunderstood man.

                    I'm also pleased to see Alex Brummer going to be questioned because he is another that has distorted the facts on a regular basis.

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                      #20
                      Is Cybertory BrianC from ITcontractor?
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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