Britain's highly educated, motivated workforce

[Solidec]

Is it only me who finds that amusing? It's almost a bushism...

Bushism it may be, but does that make it any less true or relevant? Do you disagree with the statement?

[ratewhore]

That's because they're all bunched together in big council estates. You need to get rid of the council estates and persuade each middle class neighbourhood to 'adopt a chav' in one rented house. Perhaps the kindly middle classes could be given a tax advantage for such a scheme. That way, the useless chavs are less likely to breed with members of the same social group and you slow down the reproduction of halfwits.

It works here. The Dutch stopped building big social housing estates when they realised that it's not a good idea to let Wayne and Waynetta live too close to each other. tehre are still some problems in the cities where the big estates were built, but otherwise things are generally OK and perhaps even improving, despite what the locals sometimes think.

They tried that in a lot of local authority areas and still do today (social housing on new estates). It doesn't solve the problem, just moves it around and annoys the feck out of those who buy their own houses on the same estates.

[Mich the Tester]

How many second chances have shown people not to be useless, just in need of a second chance?

Just offhand:
The Beatles were rejected by almost every studio in London. PArlophone gave them a chance, just in case they could make something of it.
Bach was rejected as court musician for the Margrave of Brandenburg, despite submitting the Brandenburg concertos as his job application. The count of Cothen gave him a second chance.
Von Richtofen (the "Red Baron") failed his pilot's test three times.

Von Richthofen paid for his own pilot's training. Beatles and Bach earnt their keep in clubs before making it big time.

Maybe I should rephrase it; do you give up trying to educate numpties at the second chance? No. Third? maybe not. Fourth? Hmmm. Fifth? It's getting expensive now. Sixth? More expensive than just giving them benefits now. Seventh?

[ratewhore]

Bushism it may be, but does that make it any less true or relevant? Do you disagree with the statement?

I completely agree, as I agreed with Norman Tebbit. Only, these days, it's something you're not allowed to say or you'll be labelled elitist (even though my dad was a squaddie and my mum was a cleaner).

[Solidec]

That's because they're all bunched together in big council estates. You need to get rid of the council estates and persuade each middle class neighbourhood to 'adopt a chav' in one rented house. Perhaps the kindly middle classes could be given a tax advantage for such a scheme. That way, the useless chavs are less likely to breed with members of the same social group and you slow down the reproduction of halfwits.

It works here. The Dutch stopped building big social housing estates when they realised that it's not a good idea to let Wayne and Waynetta live too close to each other. tehre are still some problems in the cities where the big estates were built, but otherwise things are generally OK and perhaps even improving, despite what the locals sometimes think.

I do agree with you to a point. And its half heartedly happening here, with a proportion of all new build housing to be affordable etc. Govt need to break the pack mentality of the common chav on the street, if that means isolating them then so be it.

[Mich the Tester]

They tried that in a lot of local authority areas and still do today (social housing on new estates). It doesn't solve the problem, just moves it around and annoys the flip out of those who buy their own houses on the same estates.

It's not easy and it takes time and needs an element of monitoring by the local authority to make sure they aren't a nuisance, but I've seen it work.

[Solidec]

Hmm, what about benefits top ups through paid public services. Street cleaning, whitewashing walls, landscaping parks, planting trees, whatever it is, a means for the least well off in society to earn a bit more, do something useful that can go onto a CV (do benefits wasters have CV's? never though much about it!)

[ratewhore]

Hmm, what about benefits top ups through paid public services. Street cleaning, whitewashing walls, landscaping parks, planting trees, whatever it is, a means for the least well off in society to earn a bit more, do something useful that can go onto a CV (do benefits wasters have CV's? never though much about it!)

The point is, people like these two clowns would never agree with that. They've got Trisha to watch, or some such nonsense...

[sasguru]

Here are some who did it differently, their exact opposites:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7828516.stm

[darmstadt]

'British people should get the jobs before people from overseas'


Hey, that's racist !!!!

WHS

He says: "I've worked at a few places but I got laid off from [the last one] because there are immigrants that have come into our country and are working for cheaper, so that caused us to be all laid off because we're on more of a wage.

You can see that he is wearing a Lonsdale shirt which is synonymous with the right wing in Germany