Prince Harry and P*ki jibes.

[Gibbon]

No, but it would seem a little ignorant to write off everybody from very liberal Universal Sufis through humanist influenced Turkish Alevis to Iranian Shi’ites and gun toting Saudi Wahabis. You may as well profess a dislike of Christians, which would include easy going Church of England types through your average European catholic to American bible bashing fundamentalists.

Yep dislike Christians too.

[AlfredJPruffock]

You may as well profess a dislike of Christians, which would include easy going Church of England types through your average European catholic to American bible bashing fundamentalists.


Well said Mich!

Remnds me of the old adage - there is nothing so frightening as ignorance in motion.

[Clippy]

Well according to my step daughter white kids get called 'milky bar kids' at school.

I'm obviously missing something but isn't Paki short for Pakistani ???

Also, I don't like Muslims regardless of nationality, does that make me racist ????

Nah, just makes you a pr1ck.

HTH

[Mich the Tester]

Yep dislike Christians too.

How about atheists who have religious friends? Dislike them too?

[Gibbon]

You may as well profess a dislike of Christians, which would include easy going Church of England types through your average European catholic to American bible bashing fundamentalists.


Well said Mich!

Remnds me of the old adage - there is nothing so frightening as ignorance in motion.

Was Marcus Aurelius ignorant ?
Great irony is that his bronze equestrian statue survived the christian destruction as they thought it was Constantine and he actually persecuted them.

How about Leonardo Di Vinci who depised Michelangleo for his deep faith?

Christians and Muslims between them destroyed vast quantities of ancient learning in the libraries at Alexandria and Constantinople respectively.

I could go on but it's too easy .......

[Mich the Tester]

Was Marcus Aurelius ignorant ?
Great irony is that his bronze equestrian statue survived the christian destruction as they thought it was Constantine and he actually persecuted them.

How about Leonardo Di Vinci who depised Michelangleo for his deep faith?

Christians and Muslims between them destroyed vast quantities of ancient learning in the libraries at Alexandria and Constantinople respectively.

I could go on but it's too easy .......

Atheists sent millions to the Gulag, slaughtered Poles, political opponents and Germans before and after the second world war and occupied Eastern Europe for nearly half a century. They also manipulated the history of Russia to serve their own ends and stole cultural artefacts in Europe.

Your argument amounts to this; some muslims did some nasty things, therefore I dislike muslims. Some christians did some nasty stuff, therefore I dislike christians. Surely it follows that if some atheists did some nasty things, you would dislike atheists.

[EternalOptimist]

Great irony is that his bronze equestrian statue survived the christian destruction

make your mind up, was it irony or bronzey ?

anyways, you have a perfect right to offend who the heck you like, as long as we have free speech in this country

[AlfredJPruffock]

Interesting as per your comments on Aurelias - do you share his essential Nihilism as per his views on life and death ?


The significance of death was very important in the philosophy of Marcus Aurelius. He didn't believe in the afterlife.

He wrote: 'We live for an instant, only to be swallowed in "complete forgetfulness and the void of infinite time on this side of us." "Think how many ere now, after passing their life in implacable enmity, suspicion, hatred... are now dead and burnt to ashes."

According to Marcus Aurelius everything will be turned in absolute oblivion, even legends. "Of the life of man the duration is but a point, its substance streaming away, its perception dim, the fabric of the entire body prone to decay, and the soul a vortex, and fortune incalculable, and fame uncertain.

In a word all things of the body are as a river, and the things of the soul as a dream and a vapour; and life is a warfare and a pilgrim's sojourn, and fame after death is only forgetfulness." '

Everything existing "is already disintegrating and changing... everything is by nature made but to die." '

The length of one's life is irrelevant, "for look at the yawning gulf of time behind thee and before thee at another infinity to come. In this eternity the life of a baby of three days and the life of a Nestor of three centuries are as one." 'To desire is to be permanently disappointed and disturbed, since everything we desire in this world is "empty and corrupt and paltry."

For Marcus Aurelius, death was desirable, because it would make an end to all desires.

[sasguru]

Actually the argument may be that people with a strong ideology or "ism" (religious or otherwise) cause problems.

As for the Harry incident, it's a little silly for an officer to make statements like that as it may discourage many ethnic minorites from joining who may make good cannon fodder.

[minestrone]

For Marcus Aurelius, death was desirable, because it would make an end to all desires.

Desires are the best thing about living

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