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    #41
    Originally posted by chris79 View Post
    Why are some people here contractors and not MPs?
    So only MPs are entitled to have an opinion, or to know about economics. Is that seriously what you are suggesting?
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      #42
      Originally posted by chris79 View Post
      Why are some people here contractors and not MPs?
      Some people have principles.

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        #43
        Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
        Young Bob bought a horse one day from a farmer for £100.
        The farmer agreed to deliver the horse the next day. Fair enough.
        The next day he drove up and said, 'Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the horse died.'
        Bob replied: 'Well, then just give me my money back.'
        The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already'
        Bob said: 'Ok, then, just bring me the dead horse.'
        The farmer asked, 'What ya gonna do with him?
        Bob said: 'I'm going to raffle him off.'
        The farmer said, 'You can't raffle off a dead horse!'
        Bob said: 'Sure I can, watch me! I just won't tell anybody he's dead.'
        A month later, the farmer met up with Bob and asked,'What happened with that dead horse?'
        Bob said: 'I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two pounds apiece and made a profit of £998.'
        The farmer said, 'Didn't anyone complain?'
        Bob said: 'Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two pounds back.'

        So go options and derivatives...it's also a metaphor for the bank bailout.

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          #44
          It's funny to listen to you all put the world to rights. I really wish a lot of posters here could get into power for a year or two (though a week would be way too long) so we could see how well you really fair. It's easy to slag off people in business and in politics from the comfort of some forum but the truth is nearly everyone (if not everyone) on here would do a lot worse than most of those criticised. You guys (and girls) just don't have the scope and don't really understand the problems that you are providing one-post solutions for.

          There may well be some greedy, incompetent people working in politics (and in business) but I believe that, at least in politics, we generally have decent and in some cases excellent people dealing with the complicated problems of the world today for the best interests of our country. These problems are more complicated than a bunch of IT people, bored as hell, on a forum will ever be able to comprehend (unless of course you get in to politics and show us your stuff!).


          I'd bet a lot of money half of you can't even do your own job to a high standard so you shouldn't be bashing other people. You know, glass houses and all that.
          Last edited by jkoder; 9 January 2009, 21:15.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jkoder View Post
            These problems are more complicated than bunch of IT people, bored as hell, on a forum will ever be able to comprehend...
            A friendly word of advice, and as an attempt to prevent you being insulted in return (deservedly so) - it is best not to make assumptions about people discussing things on a public forum who you know absolutely nothing about. You tend to make yourself look a little foolish.

            There are people here who know a lot more about economics than you imagine. Instead of descending to the level insulting everyone on this forum, why not try contributing to the debate?
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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              #46
              Originally posted by chris79 View Post
              Why are some people here contractors and not MPs?
              I meant this in a tongue in cheek kind of way, wasn't having a pop at anyone if that's how it read. I find a lot of the stuff written on here quite entertaining and informative.
              The cycle of life: born > learn > work > learn > dead.

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                #47
                Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                A friendly word of advice
                Thanks, I need a new online friend.


                Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                There are people here who know a lot more about economics than you imagine.
                Not really, I imagine somewhere among the shit there are a few with their heads screwed on. What I am pretty sure about is that few people on here agree with one an other and that all of you can't be right about certain issues which get addressed. Don't you understand that this is the opposite of politicians debating about the technical side of I.T., a field where they can find information but they have never worked in and probably know little about. Would you listen to them tell you how IT works, or would you discard them as amateurs? What' so different, few or no people here work in hardcore politics or economics so why do we have so many Einsteins on this subject?

                Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                why not try contributing to the debate?
                I'll join a debate in the technical section, as it fits my skills. I don't want to talk all day about something I don't have a clue about.
                Last edited by jkoder; 9 January 2009, 23:08.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by dinker View Post
                  Some people have principles.
                  But contractors can't be many rungs up the ladder than politicians, if any.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                    But contractors can't be many rungs up the ladder than politicians, if any.
                    Speak for yourself.

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                      #50
                      Instead of descending to the level insulting everyone on this forum, why not try contributing to the debate?
                      I don't think, and he suggested in a following post, that he was deliberately trying to insult anyone.

                      His salient point was that people may pontificate all they like on here, and yet it's unlikely they have much idea of the complexities of the situation, since it's unlikey that we have the top 5 experts in the world posting on here.

                      Hell, even the top 5 experts in the world get this stuff wrong, so there's no hope for anybody below their experience is there ?

                      It's just waffle.

                      I don't have a background in economics, so it would be a bit presumptious of me to venture any sort of opinion in that arena.

                      I accept that some people do have a background in economics, but at the level we are talking there, the bar for discussion is raised higher than the average degree.

                      You really need to be in the top percentiles to speak with any credibility on this subject.

                      Anything else is just waffle and can be ignored.
                      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

                      C.S. Lewis

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