crap that permies put up with

[lambrini_socialist]

my wife is applying for a job at the moment. the application form is horrendous: you're expected to tell them your previous salary (that's their business why exactly?) and provide examples of "analytical thinking", "results orientation" and "resilience".

personally i'd like to give them an example of the back of my hand!

[scooby]

my wife is applying for a job at the moment. the application form is horrendous: you're expected to tell them your previous salary (that's their business why exactly?) and provide examples of "analytical thinking", "results orientation" and "resilience".

personally i'd like to give them an example of the back of my hand!

as a perm i use to increase my previous salary by about 30% and haggle down to 15%+. worked each time.

[Turion]

The salary is to give them indication of whether she would fit on the pay scale for the job that she is applying, and how senior she is. They will presume that she does not want a pay cut, therefore if her current/last salary is higher than they can offer, they will not consider her for interview.

[Old Greg]

The salary is to give them indication of whether she would fit on the pay scale for the job that she is applying, and how senior she is. They will presume that she does not want a pay cut, therefore if her current/last salary is higher than they can offer, they will not consider her for interview.

Well you'd think, wouldn't you. In my permie days, I went for an interview. They offered me the job but wanted me to take 10% cut, while moving from public to private sector. Apparently they had great development opportunities . I went on to contract for their public sector client instead and play out my petty little grudge.

[lambrini_socialist]

Well you'd think, wouldn't you. In my permie days, I went for an interview. They offered me the job but wanted me to take 10% cut, while moving from public to private sector. Apparently they had great development opportunities . I went on to contract for their public sector client instead and play out my petty little grudge.

a heartwarming tale.

[shoes]

provide examples of "analytical thinking", "results orientation" and "resilience".

This is the kind of crp people who work in HR departments dream up. I hope the whole system collapses and we can get back to people doing actual valuable useful work in exchange for money. A good 70% of people working in offices in large companies are just overhead Im sure.

[threaded]

This is the kind of crp people who work in HR departments dream up. I hope the whole system collapses and we can get back to people doing actual valuable useful work in exchange for money. A good 70% of people working in offices in large companies are just overhead Im sure.

The permie lead architect at one of my clients had never heard of patterns before I mentioned them.

I know, silly me, shouldn't go educating them because it only comes back to haunt you later.

I digress. Now for the vent: how the fsck did they ever get hired?!

[bobhope]

Do they still have those kind of application forms?

I remember graduate job forms that would take hours to fill out and then you'd never hear back from them (bahh, Logica)

Personally, for that and the 360 degree assessment things, I'd want to be paid
more than contracting rates.

[ace00]

A good 70% of people working in offices in large companies are just overhead Im sure.

That is definitely true for HR. They always seem to have the best office, longest lunch and shortest working hours too. Then they outsource any remaining work to contract agencies.

[Sysman]

A good 70% of people working in offices in large companies are just overhead Im sure.

The overhead, inefficiency and waste seems to get worse the closer to HQ they are.