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Most disastrous project you've ever worked on

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    #31
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    You always know when a software project is going nowhere but you just keep your head down and keep invoicing.
    oh wow. that's just the kind of high ethical standards and professional commitment to quality that makes contractors worth the money!
    Originally posted by BolshieBastard
    You're fulfilling a business role not partaking in a rock and roll concert.

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      #32
      Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View Post
      oh wow. that's just the kind of high ethical standards and professional commitment to quality that makes contractors worth the money!
      Ah, but the customer is always right. Many a time I've been on contract where I've known the project is no good, but just plugged away and did the best possible. Making waves does little good and could be counter-productive and even a sackable offence, unless you are there to make waves.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DieScum View Post
        Sales people had sold a bunch of cool sounding technology that was completely unsuitable. The client had accepted it.

        Leaving a bunch of techies in between trying to get something workable . Which would have involved using older, trusted tech and pretty much discarding the new tech bought for millions.

        I was a permie consultant who was supposed to be promoting the cool new tech. Kind of hard when it just isn't the right tool for the job.
        1985 - some "radio modems" were on offer. A year later we were still waiting for all the bits so we could test them.

        1995 - different customer, similar salesman. This time it was microwave network devices to go across a busy junction and save on the cost of putting cabling under the road. A couple of years later they weren't working either.

        Sometimes you just get a feel for stuff that's never going to work.
        Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
          Ah, but the customer is always right. Many a time I've been on contract where I've known the project is no good, but just plugged away and did the best possible. Making waves does little good and could be counter-productive and even a sackable offence, unless you are there to make waves.
          Yes I have seen 2 people get the boot for trying to make things better. Client never likes it.

          I used to drop hints like "did you never think of doing it this way?" but hardly ever does anyone follow it up. Now I don't even bother, I just write it the way they want it and keep my mouth shut. When I get bored of the madness I move on.

          It's the client's project and if they want to write a bunch of crap who am I to get in the way.

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            #35
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            You always know when a software project is going nowhere but you just keep your head down and keep invoicing.
            Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View Post
            oh wow. that's just the kind of high ethical standards and professional commitment to quality that makes contractors worth the money!
            Contractors are often just the footsoldiers; you start making waves and causing trouble and you will at best be ignored. Usually you'll be let go, or terminated. Anyone who fails to see this probably hasn't done much contracting!
            Cats are evil.

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              #36
              Originally posted by swamp View Post
              Contractors are often just the footsoldiers; you start making waves and causing trouble and you will at best be ignored. Usually you'll be let go, or terminated. Anyone who fails to see this probably hasn't done much contracting!
              This is very true. Only today I spotted a major performance bug hidden by some other stuff. But speaking your mind here only ever leads to grief.

              I shall wait until it is spotted then propose the fix.....

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                #37
                Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                This is very true. Only today I spotted a major performance bug hidden by some other stuff. But speaking your mind here only ever leads to grief.

                I shall wait until it is spotted then propose the fix.....
                This is one of the good things about being a contractor. You put your consultant hat on and when the time comes say something diplomatic:

                "I can see the developers have gone for a tactical solution here"
                (The code is a pile of s*1te)

                "This package/technology was popular in the past, but it's now been generally superseded by X"
                (No one in their right ever uses this abortion of a product)

                Etc. etc.
                Cats are evil.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                  Ah, but the customer is always right. Many a time I've been on contract where I've known the project is no good, but just plugged away and did the best possible. Making waves does little good and could be counter-productive and even a sackable offence, unless you are there to make waves.
                  meh, sounds like a mandate for apathy. my company solves problems and leaves things in a better state at clientco than they were before: it's possible to do this without being obnoxious. anyone who worries that this will get them fired needs to get some self-respect, and possibly upgrade their skills.
                  Originally posted by BolshieBastard
                  You're fulfilling a business role not partaking in a rock and roll concert.

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                    #39
                    In my first job there was a huge project which I worked on which went nowhere....4 years and not a single copy sold.

                    Now I have to deal with the monkeys that are SCC. These guys are like working with four year olds. "but the instructions are for Oracle 10g ODBC and this is version 9". "I did the install and the only thing I can find is Microsoft Oracle and it looks completely different".
                    All this for the "cheap" SCC charge of £550/day...
                    McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                    Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View Post
                      meh, sounds like a mandate for apathy. my company solves problems and leaves things in a better state at clientco than they were before: it's possible to do this without being obnoxious. anyone who worries that this will get them fired needs to get some self-respect, and possibly upgrade their skills.
                      Lamb

                      lift up off the seat a little, I cant hear you clearly.

                      There are times when its the right thing to make waves, there are times when it isnt. I have not done a single contract where I could not have shot the whole thing down in flames. It's easy. It's not always right




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