Climate change summit to change climate

[AtW]

The earth has been warming up since the last ice age, that's a no brainer.

Last ice age - begun 110,000 years ago and ended around 10-15000 BP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_glaciation

That's pretty long periods of time. Climate has changed pretty visibly in the last 30-50 years, "coinciding" with heavy human activity that this planet has never known.

It does not even matter if CO2 causes climate change - driving 6L engine inefficient too heavy cars that results in sending of hundreds of billions of dollars to backwards regimes is insane policy that should have been stopped 30 years ago - as soon as OPEC was formed the West should have started getting rid of dependency on oil.

[gingerjedi]

Won't that be fixed when all the oil runs out?

My oil trader mate says oil will never run out, it will get more expensive though.... much more expensive.

It's not a case of it running out its just getting harder and more expensive to get at.

[TimberWolf]

My oil trader mate says oil will never run out, it will get more expensive though.... much more expensive.

It's not a case of it running out its just getting harder and more expensive to get at.

It doesn't have to run out, which as you say it will never happen. Demand just has to exceed supply before the fun starts, and that could be soon.

[gingerjedi]

It does not even matter if CO2 causes climate change - driving 6L engine inefficient too heavy cars that results in sending of hundreds of billions of dollars to backwards regimes is insane policy that should have been stopped 30 years ago - as soon as OPEC was formed the West should have started getting rid of dependency on oil.

That is something the Europeans realised a long time ago, the septics answer was to keep the 6 litre but restrict it and impose a 55 mph speed limit.

[Purple Dalek]

The environmentalists would have you believe the earth has warmed dramatically recently but the ski slopes are opening the earliest for 10 years.

[ace00]

It does not even matter if CO2 causes climate change - driving 6L engine inefficient too heavy cars that results in sending of hundreds of billions of dollars to backwards regimes is insane policy that should have been stopped 30 years ago - as soon as OPEC was formed the West should have started getting rid of dependency on oil.

It does matter as who do you think will pay for the various carbon reduction policies? Further, who do you think pays for the lost global productivity or bs policies like ethanol gasoline?
I agree on the oil industry, totally corrupt and funding lots of nasty people, not just in the m/e, but why involve this CO2 based fairy tale?