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    #11
    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    Odd really.

    When chavs decide to pick and choose which laws they'll break and which they'll use in their defence, most people seem to find that unacceptable.

    When a Tory MP shows the same contempt for the law, many of the same people bitch and whine about his being called on it.

    Either you accept that the law applies to all, or you don't. If you don't, the law becomes meaningless.

    ADDENDUM: And if, as he argues, his actions were in the public interest, then he potentially has a sound defence. A number of peace protesters and environmental activists have been acquitted of criminal charges brought against them concerning actions which they freely admitted having carried out, but argued were conducive to a greater good that was of higher importance than the actual criminality of their actions.

    This defence is also open to this man, and again, it is for a court to determine if the ends justified the means.

    He may well have been justified in his actions, but for justice to be done, it must be seen to be done - and never more so than in a case where a special justification for a normally criminal act is pleaded.
    Interesting that you immediately accuse him of breaking the law. Is that because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty unless you are a Tory MP????

    Then you completely contradict yourself with your addendum

    Anyway this is interesting:

    Apparently no one in the govt knew about this, yet the police acted on a complaint from the cabinet office
    Last edited by DodgyAgent; 28 November 2008, 10:25.
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      #12
      Originally posted by expat View Post
      That is the disturbing part. As with Iceland's assets: just use anti-terrorism laws, they're ready to hand.

      I suspect that some people in this government have more and more trouble seeing the difference between terrorism and something they don't like. Which is a reason to go easy on anti-terrorism laws.
      Oh you dear child, terrorism is anything someone in the party doesn't like.

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        #13
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          #14
          Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
          BTW, Green was arrested under the anti-terrorism laws. What else?
          Does this mean we can lock him up for 40 days without charge and waterboard him?

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            #15
            I wonder if they took his fingerprints and DNA ?




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              #16
              Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
              Does this mean we can lock him up for 40 days without charge and waterboard him?
              As a tory he'll no doubt enjoy it, it'll be just like school.
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                #17
                I think we need more un-substantiated theorising. I say it was Mandelson. Him & Blair (Ian) had a chat down the gaybar & Mandy promised Blair a government job if he did something to embarasse Brown.
                Bored.

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                  #18
                  I'm not sure of the law on this but wouldn't it be covered by Parliamentary Privilege?
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                    #19
                    Arrest

                    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                    Odd really.
                    When chavs decide to pick and choose which laws they'll break and which they'll use in their defence, most people seem to find that unacceptable.
                    Nick I think you are missing the point as to why this is so significant.

                    A leak of political "sensitive" information is by no means and act of terrorism, no more so then white collor fraud.

                    The problem here is the blanket use of terror laws and even more so the incorrect application of terror law, which appears to be for political gain.

                    The misuse of the judical system is a characteristic of immature, unstable political systems and dictatorships.

                    The man is not a terrorist so why have the terror laws been used to detain him?
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by deano View Post
                      I'm not sure of the law on this but wouldn't it be covered by Parliamentary Privilege?
                      The Ruling Party's Privilege trumps that, apparently...

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