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    #51
    I actually get a certain amount of pleasure seeing people display hatred toward Thatcher, I can see that they were the lazy, unionised dole scrounging lefties who were forced to go out and get jobs that were not payed for by the state.

    Every time I hear an anti Thatcher rant I have a smile.

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      #52
      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
      I actually get a certain amount of pleasure seeing people display hatred toward Thatcher, I can see that they were the lazy, unionised dole scrounging lefties who were forced to go out and get jobs that were not payed for by the state.

      Every time I hear an anti Thatcher rant I have a smile.
      paid

      You barrow boy oik.

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        #53
        When did we feel that we should gear our economy away from the wealth-creating middle-classes and focus it on eradicating poverty?

        There are no countries or societies that have no poor people. Those that claim to have no poor people actually have only poor people and nothing else.

        The nature of humanity is that we will compete against each other and therefore there will be richer and poorer. Yes we should provide a safety net, but in my humble opinion we now have the balance wrong. We have a Government who's aims are to redistribute wealth from those who earn it to those who don't. That has never worked. The best that can be hoped for is a temporary reduction in relative poverty, and that can only be done with the co-operation of the wealth-creators - the middle-classes.

        Without the middle-classes political parties simply cannot get elected, and once they start to reject government policies then that government is living on borrowed time.

        The answer is clear, the middle-classes have to be pandered to at the expense of the poor, in order to provide the poor with whatever largesse the middle-classes feel they want to pass on.

        The best way of helping the poor is to provide mechanisms for moving the poor into the middle-classes and that means letting those with the talent and inclination go ahead and try. That means not taking their wealth away as a punishment for risk-taking.

        Twas ever thus and I see nothing that will change this at all.
        When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice - Ayn Rand, Atlas.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Bob Dalek View Post
          paid

          You barrow boy oik.
          Fag smoking pendant.

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            #55
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            Fag smoking pendant.
            pedant

            HTH.

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              #56
              Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
              pedant

              HTH.

              Right over your head mate, right over your head.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
                Well that certainly fits in with her views at the time. No doubt she was as big a fan of Shirley Porter as she was of General Pinochet.
                At least he supported us in the Falklands, when the USA were conveniently absent (as usual) and France was arming the enemy.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  Right over your head mate, right over your head.
                  Explain.

                  <waits, probably until time itself shrinks to a singularity of nullness, for an answer>

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    I actually get a certain amount of pleasure seeing people display hatred toward Thatcher, I can see that they were the lazy, unionised dole scrounging lefties who were forced to go out and get jobs that were not payed for by the state.

                    Every time I hear an anti Thatcher rant I have a smile.
                    I didn't realise there was a union for people on the dole !

                    Why people get peed off with you Thatcher lovers is the way you patronise people into little categories. Mrs T got in thanks to the working class swapping allegiances, not the black and white, wrong and right world you have imagined. Until the debate moves away from dole scroungers (redundant workseekers) Vs the intelligent middle/upper class (supposed), we might as well stick with childish insults.
                    The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                    But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                      blah ... we might as well stick with childish insults.
                      Indeed, and you smell, so there.

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