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    #11
    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
    You obviously have no clue about creating incentive to work and self-reliance. No wonder we have so many benefit scroungers.

    You still haven't answered my question. What is this unearned income that is not taxed ?
    1. see above: capital is already taxed, income on it is not, and it is not earned income, you didn't work for it.
    2. in general, any income other than wages. If you didn't work for it, why shouldn't you pay tax on it?

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      #12
      Originally posted by expat View Post
      Of course it is. But any profit they make on it, like interest or dividends, has not already been taxed.

      Put in 1000.00 of taxed money, you pay no more tax on that. Get out 1050.00: 50.00 of that is unearned income, not yet taxed.


      That IS taxed, via capital gains, and savings tax once converted to cash. And when it is spent on goods and services it is taxed yet again. Next !!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by expat View Post
        Of course it is. But any profit they make on it, like interest or dividends, has not already been taxed.

        Put in 1000.00 of taxed money, you pay no more tax on that. Get out 1050.00: 50.00 of that is unearned income, not yet taxed.
        What you are suggesting would punish pensioners just for carrying on living...
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          #14
          I suppose it depends how you classify work. Making an investment decision, choosing how much risk to take, backing that up with cash is that less work than setting up a website, putting on ads, getting income from the ads.

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            #15
            Originally posted by expat View Post
            1. see above: capital is already taxed, income on it is not, and it is not earned income, you didn't work for it.
            2. in general, any income other than wages. If you didn't work for it, why shouldn't you pay tax on it?

            .... but you did work for it. If you had not worked for it, it would not have been available to invest.

            If you then tax this further, nobody will invest in the stock market. That would be a disaster for the economy. Companies thrive on investment!!

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              #16
              I think there is a reasonable argument to place something like a gambling tax on those who play the stock market.
              It should be reasonably easy to make pension funds exempt.

              Some of the biggest areas of "lost" revenue are for non doms. Aren't some of those city bonuses tax free too?
              I am not qualified to give the above advice!

              The original point and click interface by
              Smith and Wesson.

              Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                I think there is a reasonable argument to place something like a gambling tax on those who play the stock market.
                Erm isn't that Captial Gains Tax?
                And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by b0redom View Post
                  Erm isn't that Captial Gains Tax?
                  Don't know, never played the markets. I understood there was little tax to pay.
                  I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                  The original point and click interface by
                  Smith and Wesson.

                  Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    I think there is a reasonable argument to place something like a gambling tax on those who play the stock market.
                    It should be reasonably easy to make pension funds exempt.

                    Some of the biggest areas of "lost" revenue are for non doms. Aren't some of those city bonuses tax free too?


                    There is already stamp duty on every purchase transaction, and capital gains on annual profits. There is a big risk in stock markets. Take away benefits and there will be a negative effect on the economy, as people avoid risk.

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                      #20
                      They should bring back 405 line telly as well.

                      FFS, the world has moved on and stupid ideas like are well known to be counter-productive. So that'll mean that this bunch will introduce it.

                      Why should I care. Doesn't apply to me.
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