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i think it's Barrymore 11:5Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostWhich book of the bible does this quote come from?Originally posted by BolshieBastardYou're fulfilling a business role not partaking in a rock and roll concert.Comment
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Perhaps we could extend the new system to a kind of sheep dip, that all members of the church must go through.
I think we are in danger of missing out all the people that actually listen to the tulip.
They need to be identified.
Originally posted by cailin maithHang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar??
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CofE is notoriously wishy-washy, would rather be PC than offend anyone, regardless of the fact that Christianity does make strong statements on the subject of sexuality/marriage, which are going to be offensive to some - you can't hold a strong set of principles without upsetting somebody.Originally posted by lambrini_socialist View Postoh dear god no.
FWIW, this is not representative of the C of E that i'm familiar with. i know quite a few priests (including gay ones) and none of them hold views anything like this. i guess this guy is the anglican equivalent of Abu Hamza. what an embarassment, i hope he's binned forthwith...
Just for the record, my understanding is that the bible basically says sex should only happen in a marriage, and marriage is only between a man and a woman... sex between 2 men is therefore categorised similarly to sex between an unmarried couple.
There's also a clear distinction between being gay, and having sex with another person of the same sex... Christianity doesn't say gays are evil, it just says it is wrong to have gay sex. This absolutely puts gay people in a predicament since if you are gay and agree with all this you are logically destined to try and live a life of chastity... but anyone who denounces gays in the name of the Church is just plain wrong...Last edited by d000hg; 8 October 2008, 15:10.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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As we are now going down the theological route, it is probably a good idea to clarify a few points:Originally posted by d000hg View Post
Just for the record, my understanding is that the bible basically says sex should only happen in a marriage, and marriage is only between a man and a woman... sex between 2 men is therefore categorised similarly to sex between an unmarried couple.
There's also a clear distinction between being gay, and having sex with another person of the same sex... Christianity doesn't say gays are evil, it just says it is wrong to have gay sex. This absolutely puts gay people in a predicament since if you are gay and agree with all this you are logically destined to try and live a life of chastity... but anyone who denounces gays in the name of the Church is just plain wrong...
At the time the bible was written, there was no such concept as being gay, or living in a gay relationship. What there was, was the abuse of young men (usually children) by male adults. This is what the bible was targeting.
There was a saying during the Roman times that went something along the lines of
“A wife is to look after the children and to kiss. A young boy is for providing pleasure”.
Note: I am not an apologist. It also says in the Leviticus that all creatures of the sea that don’t have scales are an abomination and should be despised. So dim prawns are off the menu.
From a straight atheistOriginally posted by cailin maithHang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar??
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i refer you to my previous comments about biblically-sanctioned eye-gouging, execution by stoning and incest. and all that claptrap about a six-day creation too.Originally posted by d000hg View PostCofE is notoriously wishy-washy, would rather be PC than offend anyone, regardless of the fact that Christianity does make strong statements on the subject of sexuality/marriage, which are going to be offensive to some - you can't hold a strong set of principles without upsetting somebody.
Just for the record, my understanding is that the bible basically says sex should only happen in a marriage, and marriage is only between a man and a woman... sex between 2 men is therefore categorised similarly to sex between an unmarried couple.
There's also a clear distinction between being gay, and having sex with another person of the same sex... Christianity doesn't say gays are evil, it just says it is wrong to have gay sex. This absolutely puts gay people in a predicament since if you are gay and agree with all this you are logically destined to try and live a life of chastity... but anyone who denounces gays in the name of the Church is just plain wrong...
you say "wishy washy", i say "incredulous".Last edited by lambrini_socialist; 8 October 2008, 15:36. Reason: looked up "credulous" in a dictionaryOriginally posted by BolshieBastardYou're fulfilling a business role not partaking in a rock and roll concert.Comment
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Well, I should have said I could poke fun at the modern church and some people who claim to act in the name of it, rather than Christianity itself.Originally posted by expat View PostConsciously?Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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As Douglas Adams once so wittily and unusually wrote of the Bible, it is missing an original first page which reads: "Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental".Comment
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I don't agree, but it's a good quoteOriginally posted by Bob Dalek View PostAs Douglas Adams once so wittily and unusually wrote of the Bible, it is missing an original first page which reads: "Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental".
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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