Footballer drunk-driver jailed for killing

[AtW]

You really are a bit of a simpleton...

In one country they decided to give death sentence for rapes. Guess what happened? Yes, those who raped also started killing raped women to avoid having witnesses - why not if they would get death sentence anyway?

[The Lone Gunman]

In one country they decided to give death sentence for rapes. Guess what happened? Yes, those who raped also started killing raped women to avoid having witnesses - why not if they would get death sentence anyway?

Yes mate, but first this was an accident (avoidable mind) and second he had already killed a couple of people.
What do you think he would have done? Got out and shot the survivors?

[AtW]

What do you think he would have done? Got out and shot the survivors?

No idea - but you can be sure that if he knew he'd get 100% life for accident then at least some of those who cause accidents will flip and kill other people. 4000 people killed on roads every year in the UK, even if just 0.1% flips you'd get 40 more killed (these are simple stats - obviously some accidents kill more than one person).

[Diver]

Kill anybody caught drink driving.

Drag them naked through the streets behind a car at 30mph until dead.

Sorted


and I'll drive

Seriously

I wonder if there would be a significant drop in drink driving?

[BoredBloke]

... but it is not right because he will only serve 3.5 years !!

That is the thing I don't agree with. I'm for a reduction in time if the offer can secure a conviction in a case where there is a possibility that the criminal will get off, but in cases where it is pretty much a 100% cert that the criminal did it I don't see why you should offer any incentive.

[The Lone Gunman]

That is the thing I don't agree with. I'm for a reduction in time if the offer can secure a conviction in a case where there is a possibility that the criminal will get off, but in cases where it is pretty much a 100% cert that the criminal did it I don't see why you should offer any incentive.

Cost of the court case, distress to the victims and actual remorse for their actions are the usual reasons. Probably valid.

[AtW]

Cost of the court case, distress to the victims and actual remorse for their actions are the usual reasons. Probably valid.

That's reduction in sentence (30% minimum apparently for pleading guilty) - they get reduction in actual served time automatically which is grossly wrong.

They do that to reduce need for building more prisons which makes it mockery of justice - 7 years should mean 7 years (unless successful appeal), maybe if he becomes Nobel Prize winner behind bars and uses the money right then maybe reduce sentence, otherwise not. If you are in prison and you are not behaving there then more time should be added - if you can't behave in prison how can you be trusted to behave in open society?

[BoredBloke]

Cost of the court case, distress to the victims and actual remorse for their actions are the usual reasons. Probably valid.

No I think it comes down to cost. I think the distress to victims would be higher if they knew that the person who, for example, stabbed their relative and who was clearly seen of CCTV doing it would be out in half the time simply because they admitted doing it - in a case where his guilt was never in doubt.

[The Lone Gunman]

No I think it comes down to cost. I think the distress to victims would be higher if they knew that the person who, for example, stabbed their relative and who was clearly seen of CCTV doing it would be out in half the time simply because they admitted doing it - in a case where his guilt was never in doubt.

If he is bang to rights he will plead not guilty and drag the case out as there is no incentive to plead guilty.

TwAttY: Stop spouting about things you have no clue on.
There is nothing automatic about a prisoners reduced sentence.
Judges know about reductions and sentence accordingly.

Not always correctly in my opinion, but they do take remission into consideration.

[AtW]

TwAttY: Stop spouting about things you have no clue on.
There is nothing automatic about a prisoners reduced sentence.
Judges know about reductions and sentence accordingly.

If the accused enters Guilty plea this will automatically reduce sentence, apparently the guidance is 1/3 of the term.

Whilst in prison it is almost automatic that they get out after serving half term (unless they cause big trouble) - that's also based on guidance which is influenced by the fact that there are little prison spaces available and Nu Liebor does not want to spent money on building new prisons (cheaper to issue guidance).

If my information about how justice system works in the UK is incorrect then please disprove it without calling names (that shows you got no valid arguement).