Leeds is almost in Scotland, isn't it?

[TheBigYinJames]

To equate modern Scottish stock with the Celts of old is to compare the modern Greek to Plato.

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. The celts/scots haven't change that much since Iron Age times. They still fight each other with long knifes and talk in indecipherable languages.

The greeks lost interest in Philosophy once they discovered bum love.

[Incognito]

Have a butcher's, sunshine:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/scotland.html

Have a read mongrel

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2591969.ece

[Incognito]

To equate modern Scottish stock with the Celts of old is to compare the modern Greek to Plato.

Oh really? I can trace my clan back to the 12th century thank you very much.

[AtW]

High speed train plan is a very good one and I hope it will happen ASAP.

As for Scotland not being linked then it's up to them to connect to Leeds if they want to spend money on it, I mean really - they vote either Labour or SNP, why complain that Conservative Govt that they don't want to vote for will not put many more billions to extend fast trains to Scotland. It is probably not worth doing high speed link to Leeds in the first place - London - Brum - Manchester should be enough to start with.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Come on, not all Londoners are like that. Some of them are almost human.

Yes, some of the lower class ones and the retards could be confused with humans. The rest of us have evolved a lot further.

[Incognito]

High speed train plan is a very good one and I hope it will happen ASAP.

As for Scotland not being linked then it's up to them to connect to Leeds if they want to spend money on it, I mean really - they vote either Labour or SNP, why complain that Conservative Govt that they don't want to vote for will not put many more billions to extend fast trains to Scotland. It is probably not worth doing high speed link to Leeds in the first place - London - Brum - Manchester should be enough to start with.

Because my furry little friend, when High Speed One was originally touted and priced up and revenue raised from the BRITISH public, we were sold on the fact that they would be laying High Speed Two next to it at St Pancras and this would be going to Scotland and hey ho, when the Tunnel was built, Westminster changed it's mind.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ly-573257.html

[AtW]

when High Speed One was originally touted and priced up and revenue raised from the BRITISH public

That revenue was spent already - nothing was raised yet for this project as it has not yet begun yet.

IMO short haul air flights from Glasgow to London actually make sense, or overnight sleeper trains, doing the whole very high speed line to Glasgow right now would be too much - the extra costs would be disproportionate extra gains this line would give. So if Scotland wants the extension to Leeds then they'd would have to pay for it. It's only fair innit?

[scooterscot]

Right let me sort this mess out.


London is what 5 hours away from Edinburgh on the train? If they improve upon this I'm moving further North accordingly.

The last thing we need here is more Londoner's seeking shelter from the crisis they created. Just had a couple of them move in upstairs, honestly, you'd think they were royalty.

Edit: My female Londoner neighbour had difficultly opening the front door the other day (old storm door) so I came out and opened it for the well tanned nice smelling petite frail range rover driving person that she is. Now every time she sees me sat at the window see expects the doorman... I tell yah I'm going out tonight to smother the door knob in Vaseline.

[expat]

That revenue was spent already - nothing was raised yet for this project as it has not yet begun yet.

IMO short haul air flights from Glasgow to London actually make sense, or overnight sleeper trains, doing the whole very high speed line to Glasgow right now would be too much - the extra costs would be disproportionate extra gains this line would give. So if Scotland wants the extension to Leeds then they'd would have to pay for it. It's only fair innit?

IMHO much better use could indeed be made of existing track, including reliable single-occupancy sleepers that don't cost as much as a taxi with civilised accommodation at either end.

How about a midnight departure with advance checkin, lounge car already open, separate lounge in station (who needs Glasgow or Euston at 11:30pm?), cooked breakfast+newspaper on the train at a civilised hour of the morning; and plenty of time to leave the train? I might go for that.

Or a drive-on car train like the Tunnel, but with seating coaches too? Or indeed anything other than the sort of minimum service that we have now, designed around the railways rather than the passengers.

As for day trains - shudder - I used those for a couple of years at the end of the 1980s. They could have been OK but they were just badly run. Run them on time, not ovcercrowded, don't run out of buffet supplies, not breaking down, etc. Just run the service right. Oh and don't give squaddies travel warrants on them

[expat]

Right let me sort this mess out.


London is what 5 hours away from Edinburgh on the train?


If they improve upon this I'm moving further North accordingly.

The last thing we need here is more Londoner's seeking shelter from the crisis they created. Just had a couple of them move in upstairs, honestly, you'd think they were royalty.

Ha! Good point. I am hoping to return someday and I would like it to be to something resembling Scotland (obviously as a long-term escapee I am not entitled to much say in what that might mean), not a kind of far-flung London commuterland.

PS You might move North? Have you seen the size of the English populations in some Highland towns? And just so, they shat in their own nest and then moved in to take over a new one.