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    #71
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Let's face it, there's not one scrap of evidence for the existence of the supernatural, all-powerful being we call God that hasn't been created in the (admittedly superb) imagination of mankind.
    Where's the evidence that the evidence for the supernatural, all-powerful being we call God that has been created in the imagination of mankind?

    Your statement seems to be circularl reasoning- God doesn't exist, so all the evidence must be imagination, which proves God doesn't exist.

    Rather like Dawkins. God doesn't exists, so all the apparent evidence of design isn't evidence, so God doesn't exist.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #72
      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

      Asking whether someone believes in the bible is a bit odd. It's a collection of 66 books. One of them is a book of poems and songs. What's to believe?
      some people like to believe what is written in the bible is true.
      "Condoms should come with a free pack of earplugs."

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        #73
        The original Bible had a Sudoku and cryptic crossword section.

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          #74
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          ... has obviously never intervened again.
          Why's that then?
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #75
            Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
            AIUI and IANAT Christianity doesn't say anything about God having a beard, nor about him living in the sky.

            The bible takes precedence over the Koran, apparently, because the former was written by between ~1000BC and 200AD, and the latter ~400AD. The Koran flatly contradicts stuff in the Bible. E.g. the bible says Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son Isaac. The Koran says it was Ishmael. Now, the biblical tale has been around since at least 600BC (when the septuagint, the greek translation of the old testament was written ). There's no evidence that the koranic tale existed any time before the Koran was written.

            Asking whether someone believes in the bible is a bit odd. It's a collection of 66 books. One of them is a book of poems and songs. What's to believe?
            Well why and what do Christians believe whatever they believe in then?
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #76
              Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
              ooooh but God does not comply to the model with evidense and tulip, you have to trust me, and maybe donate a bit, in God and all the stories in the big book. Otherwise he will send you to hell. But he loves you.
              Post of the day.

              Please all god botherers, tell me which pieces of your particular "holy book"s do you cherry pick to believe and why?

              Also, why do you assume that those who do not believe are without (or have an inferior sense of) morality? You talk like morality is something that can't be taught without religion, which is, of course, utter boll0x.
              "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


              Thomas Jefferson

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                #77
                Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
                some people like to believe what is written in the bible is true.
                Psalm 150:

                1 Praise the LORD.
                Praise God in his sanctuary;
                praise him in his mighty heavens.

                2 Praise him for his acts of power;
                praise him for his surpassing greatness.

                3 Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
                praise him with the harp and lyre,

                4 praise him with tambourine and dancing,
                praise him with the strings and flute,

                5 praise him with the clash of cymbals,
                praise him with resounding cymbals.

                6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.
                Praise the LORD.


                Where in that is there anything that it makes sense to believe is "true"? It's not history. It's not saying anything about God, the universe or anything.

                It's astonishing how many people have an opinion on the Bible, or the Koran or the Hindu scriptures, who've never read it. Or have an opinion on what these faiths teach, when they've never bothered to study it. Well, it's not astonishing really - it's simply evidence of closed minds.
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  Where's the evidence that the evidence for the supernatural, all-powerful being we call God that has been created in the imagination of mankind?

                  Your statement seems to be circularl reasoning- God doesn't exist, so all the evidence must be imagination, which proves God doesn't exist.

                  Rather like Dawkins. God doesn't exists, so all the apparent evidence of design isn't evidence, so God doesn't exist.
                  No its you that has the circular reasoning - and it's an argument I've heard before.
                  You are the one positing the existence of something and it is incumbent on you to provide the evidence for existence of said thing.
                  If you are claiming the apparent evidence of design as evidence, there is more evidence that biological design evolved.
                  Take the eye for example - why do we have blind spots. A perfect God should have designed that out.
                  Why do men have nipples or humans have appendixes?

                  I would argue biological design is imperfect.
                  Last edited by sasguru; 2 September 2008, 09:04.
                  Hard Brexit now!
                  #prayfornodeal

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                    Why's that then?
                    Because there is no "he she or it" to make any intervention.
                    HTH
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      Well why and what do Christians believe whatever they believe in then?
                      I think the Nicene creed is pretty widely held. But you'll always find someone who says they're christian who don't believe some of it.

                      One God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

                      One Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

                      Who, for us men and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

                      The Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

                      One holy catholic and apostolic Church. One baptism for the remission of sins; the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.


                      What that all actually means could take quite a long time to explore.
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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