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Dragons den last night

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    #21
    I'm pretty sure I read something on this recently where if you have a company earning lots of money, but pay yourself a small wage to stay on benefits, they class the deemed income as the calculation for it, but they don't have the resources to investigate stuff like this? Any truth in this?? Fairly sure I read this either on here, or somewhere similar..
    The cycle of life: born > learn > work > learn > dead.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
      How can it be? they have generated no cash. By admission she had a significant turnover on ebay for a fair few years before going ltd but decided she would use the state as a free loans/subsidy for her business. She decided not to take money out of the business because she deemed the state to be her provider. This is not the intention of a social security safety net. It is the same as someone with significant money in the bank claiming benefits by signing it over to relative i.e. fraud
      WHS.

      Perhaps if Rowling had continued to claim benefits after she had made a million quid from Harry Potter, it would be the same thing.

      Legal or illegal, it's just plain wrong. How can anyone justify that sort of behaviour? She (the woman on DD) should be investigated, and if found guilty be required to pay back to the state all monies she has obtained by deception.

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        #23
        Originally posted by dang65 View Post
        I didn't see Dragon's Den, but it sounds like what she's doing would be similar to J K Rowling writing Harry Potter while on benefits. Or bands learning to play and writing their first album while on benefits.
        It's a pisser, isn't it? Gits on benefit who then use the enormous amount of free time they have to write, create, whatever, instead of finding a f--king job! It's a bastard's trick, and no mistake. And what if they don't strike oil first time around? Never mind, just try again, and again, until they (a) Finally crack it (b) Die.

        It warms the cockles of my heart to think that lice like these gits are noodling around on benefits while Mrs. Dalek and I get up at 6AM and get home at 8PM, having actually done real work. My wife's quite creative, but time seriously limits her chances of making it in any way, so no Dragons' Den or Harry Potter stardom for her any time soon.

        I wish I had the incredibly low standards that these tea leaves have; sadly, I am a twerp who couldn't look the world in the face if I did screw the System like that.

        Hang 'em all!

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          #24
          An interesting theory that has done the rounds is that they work out a level of say 100 quid a week and give it out to everyone, workers or unemployed. It is then upto you if you want to work and pay tax back into the system. You do away with all the means tested benefits which are the real problem.

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            #25
            That's a stupid theory. It would just make everything more expensive through inflation. You may as well give everyone zero and saying get off your ass and work.

            As has already been said benefits should be for the old and unable to work.
            And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bob Dalek View Post
              It warms the cockles of my heart to think that lice like these gits are noodling around on benefits while Mrs. Dalek and I get up at 6AM and get home at 8PM, having actually done real work.
              Work? You are a contractor aren't you?

              And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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                #27
                Everyone should be given vouchers not money and there's a list of items available from those vouchers. Bread, milk, nappies, heating credits etc...

                Benefits should be the minimum required to provide a life, not luxury items, if you're on benefits and want a sky tv subscription, you'll have to go out and work to get the cash 'cus it's not on the list.

                It could be the sister list of the john lewis list; the lidl list!
                B00med!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Advocate View Post
                  Everyone should be given vouchers not money and there's a list of items available from those vouchers. Bread, milk, nappies, heating credits etc...

                  Benefits should be the minimum required to provide a life, not luxury items, if you're on benefits and want a sky tv subscription, you'll have to go out and work to get the cash 'cus it's not on the list.

                  It could be the sister list of the john lewis list; the lidl list!
                  Doesn't sound very New Labour to me! Where's the "fairness" in that? And what about minorities!!! You haven't thought it through. It's me hooman right guv.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                    Doesn't sound very New Labour to me! Where's the "fairness" in that? And what about minorities!!! You haven't thought it through. It's me hooman right guv.
                    That's easy - just make sure the vouchers include halal meat, Supermalt, kosher products, Adidas tracksuits and Argos jewellery.

                    Sorted.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Advocate View Post
                      Everyone should be given vouchers not money and there's a list of items available from those vouchers. Bread, milk, nappies, heating credits etc...

                      Benefits should be the minimum required to provide a life, not luxury items, if you're on benefits and want a sky tv subscription, you'll have to go out and work to get the cash 'cus it's not on the list.

                      It could be the sister list of the john lewis list; the lidl list!

                      They did use to give vouchers, but the single mums were complaining about the stigma of buying milk and bread with vouchers. Had nothing to do with the fact that they couldn't get their carry out with it.
                      "I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith

                      On them! On them! They fail!

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