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Ken Clarke does an about-turn on the euro

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    #11
    Originally posted by GiGo
    I have friends in Holland and they hate it. You can see why when you go over there : the exchange rate is 1 to 2/3, yet the cost of living is as if 1 to 1, compared with UK.
    Perhaps if prices were shown in the same currency then increases in prices will be more obvious.

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman
      No No No English is the Euro of languages.
      What about Esperanto? It was the coming thing many years ago. Like Unix.

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        #13
        Not having to change your money when you go on holiday has to be one of the weakest arguments for changing a nations currency.

        How about all driving on the other side of the road so that nobody has to buy those yellow stickers for their headlights.
        Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

        I preferred version 1!

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          #14
          Originally posted by stackpole
          Mr Clarke has been backed to be leader by ex-deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine." That should scupper him!
          Leopards don't change their spots, and a couple of ageing overfed smug tabby cats certainly don't change theirs either!

          Notice Clarke only said the Euro has been a failure "so far", and he can't envisage the UK joining "for ten years" - the guy is obviously still as eurofanatic as ever!
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            #15
            Are you saying that under no circumstances, under no benefits the UK would join Euro? How can one rule out acting in the best interests of the country?

            Gordon Brown is right about it -- if conditions are right, then join. The real matter for discussions is WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS, not whether to join or not to join.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AtW
              Are you saying that under no circumstances, under no benefits the UK would join Euro?
              I am.
              How can one rule out acting in the best interests of the country?
              Says who?
              Gordon Brown is right about it -- if conditions are right, then join. The real matter for discussions is WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS, not whether to join or not to join.
              The conditions are irrelevant. Intrinsically, the smaller the economy the better you can control it.

              What is happening in the Eurozone now is utterly inevitable, as Eurosceptics have been saying from the start.

              Wait until the EU starts trying to control Eurozone taxes.

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                #17
                Originally posted by wendigo100
                Wait until the EU starts trying to control Eurozone taxes.
                I see nothing wrong with that -- it will be much harder to introduce new taxes and what's more important it will have to hit everyone. So fuel prices will be harmonised across UK, what's bad about it? UK lorry drivers would certainly love that, and this means retail will love it because delivery costs will be lower.

                Nothing wrong with harmonised taxes -- only cheats like Ireland could possibly object, and even they now realised that easy tax ride they gave to companies is over because companies just move to India.

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                  #18
                  Not having to change your money when you go on holiday has to be one of the weakest arguments for changing a nations currency.
                  It's not just holidays! You are showing typical English mentality (i.e. I only go abroad for holidays). Lots of Euros cross borders for business, work etc. Lots of people live in Holland and work in Holland etc. I know the dad of one of my friends lives in France and works in Germany.

                  How about all driving on the other side of the road so that nobody has to buy those yellow stickers for their headlights.
                  I think most of them have harmonised the side of the road on which they drive! (apart from Ireland?Not sure there). Again it's just England being different just for the hell of it!

                  Come on, what is your strongest argument for keeping the pound?
                  Chico, what time is it?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by stackpole
                    I thought a euro was a woman who likes water sports.
                    No that's URO

                    Do a Google on it.
                    Last edited by Fleetwood; 24 August 2005, 18:16.
                    We must strike at the lies that have spread like disease through our minds

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Rebecca Loos
                      I think most of them have harmonised the side of the road on which they drive! (apart from Ireland?Not sure there). Again it's just England being different just for the hell of it!
                      Now there's one thing I really agree with. We should adopt RHS driving here in the UK long before we adopt the Euro.

                      The Euro is just a con enabling banks to save money. Driving on the RHS is about safety awareness and bringing down the cost of car purchase by harmonising car design.

                      I can feel a poll coming on..

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