Should the UK go to war with Russia ?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Georgia and Russia agree on truce:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7557457.stm

"Georgian troops return to their places of permanent deployment. Russian troops return to pre-conflict positions."

Just as I predicted, all Russia wanted was a return to the pre-conflict state (along with an opportunity to do as much damage to the Georgian military while they could get away with it).

Still no clue though what the Georgian president was thinking when he ordered the attack on South Ossetia, did he really expect Russia to not intervene?

It appears that the Georgian Millitary has been effectively liquidated and Russia now has control over Ossetia, the Georgian President seriously miscalculated , the unprovoked attack by Georgia resulting in the death of 1500 Russian citizens on Ossieta amounts to an act of State Terrorism and a War Crime.

[Cyberman]

It appears that the Georgian Millitary has been effectively liquidated and Russia now has control over Ossetia, the Georgian President seriously miscalculated , the unprovoked attack by Georgia resulting in the death of 1500 Russian citizens on Ossieta amounts to an act of State Terrorism and a War Crime.

This is rubbish because figures confirmed by Ossetia at the weekend now state 160 confirmed killed. Yet more propaganda by Russia proven to be scandalously inaccurate. Still it has suited their cause because you believed it !!

[Cyberman]

Georgia and Russia agree on truce:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7557457.stm

"Georgian troops return to their places of permanent deployment. Russian troops return to pre-conflict positions."

Just as I predicted, all Russia wanted was a return to the pre-conflict state (along with an opportunity to do as much damage to the Georgian military while they could get away with it).

Still no clue though what the Georgian president was thinking when he ordered the attack on South Ossetia, did he really expect Russia to not intervene?

Undone by your smugness BORED. You are being proven more wrong as each day passes.

[bored]

Erm, all my expectations are coming true. Contrary to what some people here predicted, there are no talks about annexing anything or removing the Georgian president by the Russians. The oil pipeline is still there as well.

The Russians were in it just to score some political points at home, and assert their influence in the region.

[DodgyAgent]

Erm, all my expectations are coming true. Contrary to what some people here predicted, there are no talks about annexing anything or removing the Georgian president by the Russians. The oil pipeline is there as well.

The Russians were in it just to score some political points at home, and assert their influence in the region.

Fool

[snaw]

Fool

Agree.

Though watched newsnight last week, and a former US diplomat to Russia made a very good point, we, inadvertently, encouraged Georgia to initiate the attack (Falling right into the Russian lap) by GWB visiting last year and expressing our support etc for Georgia and encouraging them to believe they were about to join NATO.

His point, well made was that there is no strategic interest in having Georgia as part of NATO, and it's too far away from us to be easily protected if it did join NATO. By encouraging this we effectively gave the hot headed Georgian president the go ahead to do what he wanted with his dodgy regions (Russian support for unrest aside).

Strikes me as shooting ourselves in the foot slightly. On the other hand it does seem pretty clear now to the world, what a lot of us have suspected for a while now, namely Russia is not to be trusted, under the current government. Think it's maybe time to stop trying to placate them, and be nice and instead be arsey instead - by whatever means that don't involve war, for now.

[DodgyAgent]

Agree.

Though watched newsnight last week, and a former US diplomat to Russia made a very good point, we, inadvertently, encouraged Georgia to initiate the attack (Falling right into the Russian lap) by GWB visiting last year and expressing our support etc for Georgia and encouraging them to believe they were about to join NATO.

His point, well made was that there is no strategic interest in having Georgia as part of NATO, and it's too far away from us to be easily protected if it did join NATO. By encouraging this we effectively gave the hot headed Georgian president the go ahead to do what he wanted with his dodgy regions (Russian support for unrest aside).

Strikes me as shooting ourselves in the foot slightly. On the other hand it does seem pretty clear now to the world, what a lot of us have suspected for a while now, namely Russia is not to be trusted, under the current government. Think it's maybe time to stop trying to placate them, and be nice and instead be arsey instead - by whatever means that don't involve war, for now.

snaw we are agreeing... again !