Should the UK go to war with Russia ?

[ace00]

When Atlantis rises again, will it have people too or will it be empty (ready for the chosen ones I guess)?

[Cyberman]

So in your logic, adding more troops to the region will lead to faster peace?

Peace comes through showing strength, not the weakness of capitulation, and history has shown this over and over. You have much to learn.

[GreenerGrass]

I think that, as things stand, far from moving closer to World War Three we now have a situation where the Russians have drawn a line. They have shown there are limits to how much US military influence they will allow in their back yard.

It will be interesting to see how things develop though. They may take over the whole country just to prevent foreign UN/NATO troops getting involved.
If that happens I wonder what the US troops (training advisors) stationed in Georgia will do if they get caught up in this...

[ace00]

I think that, as things stand, far from moving closer to World War Three we now have a situation where the Russians have drawn a line. They have shown there are limits to how much US military influence they will allow in their back yard.

It will be interesting to see how things develop though. They may take over the whole country just to prevent foreign UN/NATO troops getting involved.
If that happens I wonder what the US troops (training advisors) stationed in Georgia will do if they get caught up in this...

Agree, up to taking over the country bit. They might go for a bit of regime change though.
It's also a quid pro quo for Kosovo.

[Cyberman]

Agree, up to taking over the country bit. They might go for a bit of regime change though.
It's also a quid pro quo for Kosovo.

Regime change would effectively be the same as taking over the country, as Russia would put in a puppet government. We could then also see ethnic cleansing of all Georgians, which it had already done that with the two breakaway states.

[GreenerGrass]

Agree, up to taking over the country bit. They might go for a bit of regime change though.
It's also a quid pro quo for Kosovo.

Yes, they weren't happy about Kosovo. By taking over the country I meant a temporary occupation (up to a possible regime change) before withdrawal, having proved their point.
Just enough to totally scupper any hope of Georgia ever joining NATO.

France and Germany will never allow any country who might actually cause a war to join.

[Churchill]

Yes, they weren't happy about Kosovo. By taking over the country I meant a temporary occupation (up to a possible regime change) before withdrawal, having proved their point.
Just enough to totally scupper any hope of Georgia ever joining NATO.

France and Germany will never allow any country who might actually cause a war to join.

The government of Georgia was democratically elected. Russia replacing them would be (In GWs words) unacceptable!

[Cyberman]

Yes, they weren't happy about Kosovo. By taking over the country I meant a temporary occupation (up to a possible regime change) before withdrawal, having proved their point.
Just enough to totally scupper any hope of Georgia ever joining NATO.

France and Germany will never allow any country who might actually cause a war to join.

The cause of this war was probably Russia, which attacked Georgia after Georgia decided to defend itself from the rocket attacks from South Ossetia. It's a pretty good bet that Russia was an instigator of those original rocket attacks, as they pretty much rule South Ossetia anyway.

Georgia's failing was its naivety in being drawn into this situation by a devious Russian plan.

[Bob Dalek]

This is, BTW, an excellent time to sell any timeshare you may have in the Caucasus.

[GreenerGrass]

The cause of this war was probably Russia, which attacked Georgia after Georgia decided to defend itself from the rocket attacks from South Ossetia. It's a pretty good bet that Russia was an instigator of those original rocket attacks, as they pretty much rule South Ossetia anyway.

Georgia's failing was its naivety in being drawn into this situation by a devious Russian plan.

I'm not disputing some of the above may be true, but you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.

You underestimate the dangers of having a single dominant superpower dictating it's terms to every other state, controlling their governments through bribery, controlling the world's energy resources and bleeding them dry. Barring any large change in US foreign policy (who knows, maybe the Democrats will be better) there has to be a counter balance.

As for "democratically elected", it doesn't make a huge difference to me personally whether the president of Georgia is a US puppet or a Russian puppet.