To those who don't believe AGW is real

[sasguru]

You're right, I can't understand how we can go from "The world is going to end next year if you don't ban fossil fuels, we must all act now or die" to, "There will be no measurable effect for a million years, but we must still ban fossil fuels now."

I'll shut up and pay up like the rest of you guys.

You seem very prone to:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

[DimPrawn]

You seem very prone to:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

And you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_nauseam

[sasguru]

The problem I have is with claims such as "This becomes immediately clear when looking at the following graph", after which a graph is displayed which looks like a retard's doodling is that it does not actually answer my questions. 40 years ago we had endless experts telling us that we were heading for an Ice Age. It never materialised. A few short decades later we have more experts telling us that we are suffering from a greenhouse effect due to ozone depletion and that temperatures are set to soar. Yet in reality temperatures have not soared, but have continued with pretty much the same gentle rise that we might expect as we slowly emerge from a period of "Ice Age" Essentially, many of these scientists blame these changes on human behaviour, and when the consequences of that behaviour provide evidence that it is not in fact a primary driver of the problem, it is simply written off as a short-term blip. So Global Warming then gets changed to Climate Change yet still the experts continue with their pleas for additional funding, and the Governments endorse these requests by piling extra taxes on the public and doing their best to make them feel guilty about their fossil-burning profligacy whilst obstinately refusing to ringfence this extra revenue for alternative power sources. Why don't the Government simply say to the Public "If you want summers like this for the rest of your days then just carry on guzzling Oil etc." That might just achieve something.

Nice rant. Bit like a child's.
I'll just pick one sentence out of that drool.

You guys need to decide what your argument is. Here you seem to say temperature is not rising in any meaningful way. The multitude of graphs posted on this thread show it is.
Not that anyone over 35 needs data to know that we hardly ever have snow anymore and our summers are generally much hotter than when we were kids - and please don't say 1976 - we've already gone over random variation before.
But you clodheads don't seem to get it I think the problem is that you're just thick as pig-tulip.

[sasguru]

And you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_nauseam

Pot kettle etc.

You're the one repeating a stupid argument like some retard

[shaunbhoy]

our summers are generally much hotter than when we were kids

[DimPrawn]

Imagine if the American government agency responsible for temperature records had announced a fortnight ago that it had overestimated annual temperatures since the year 2000.

Imagine if, at the time of correcting this error, the hottest year on record was mysteriously altered from 1998 to 1934.

Imagine further that if you considered the 10 hottest years on record after these corrections, the hottest decade changed from the 1990s to the 1930s.

So you are talking bollox again. Hottest years were in the 1930's. But the AGW religous zealots start the graph from 1940.

[DodgyAgent]

Pot kettle etc.

You're the one repeating a stupid argument like some retard

Are you the government's stooge for this website? You've clearly lost the argument as you have now resorted to defending the governments position on GW by insulting dissenters.

[sasguru]

This should be simple enough even for dumb and dumber:

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...v_temperat.htm

[DimPrawn]

This should be simple enough even for dumb and dumber:

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...v_temperat.htm

But taking into account random noise, I can make the UK hotter or colder? How would you like it sir?

[sasguru]

Are you the government's stooge for this website? You've clearly lost the argument as you have now resorted to defending the governments position on GW by insulting dissenters.

No its just statement of fact. Someone who resorts to screaming the same discredited argument time after time without addressing the evidence presented against is a retard by my definition.