British Fighters Helping The Taliban

[Diver]

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[VectraMan]

So it's Not OK to strip somebody of their citizenship for actively supporting Terrorism, Blowing up and killing British Citizens, supporting the killing and murder of British troops who are responsible for the freedoms that these Muslim activists enjoy in this country? very Interesting!

You can't hold up freedom as an ideal, then say anybody that doesn't agree should be thrown out of the country.

Is there anything to link British Taliban fighters with terrorism? And how exactly are the British troops in Afghanistan responsible for the freedoms we have in this country? And is killing a soldier of an invading army murder?

[Diver]

You can't hold up freedom as an ideal, then say anybody that doesn't agree should be thrown out of the country.

Is there anything to link British Taliban fighters with terrorism? And how exactly are the British troops in Afghanistan responsible for the freedoms we have in this country? And is killing a soldier of an invading army murder?

I suppose that material and financial support of al Quada is not support of terrorism. Sorry I stand Corrected

I don't suppose we can hold up freedom as an Ideal and then throw people out that don't agree with freedom and actively attempt to destroy it. After all they are merely claiming the benefits of this country while trying to destroy it. Nothing wrong with that at all

If you invite somebody to live in your house, you feed and clothe them, keep them safe. it is perfectly OK for them to set fire to your house, kill your children, set rules that you must live under on pain of death. Of course it is! according to your logic

They are British apparently, The soldiers aren't invading their country are they?

British Troops are responsible for the freedoms we enjoy in this country. No matter where they are.
When they were fighting in France and Germany they kept us free from the tyrannies of Hitler etc. The same holds true now.

You need to grow up a bit, or wise up a bit.

If you are British, then Judging by your voiced attitude and support of those supporting the killing of British troops and civilians, you are either a Muslim Activist or a Traitor to your country.

[PM-Junkie]

All religions should be banned - except one. We should all follow The Force and live like Yoda.

May The Force be with you...

[Diver]

All religions should be banned - except one. We should all follow The Force and live like Yoda.

May The Force be with you...

Shwartz

[VectraMan]

I suppose that material and financial support of al Quada is not support of terrorism. Sorry I stand Corrected

Erm, who we talking about now? We were talking about the Taliban in Afganistan, yet you've posted a link about the Muslim Council of Britain. Could it be that you assume all Muslims must be the same, that they're clearly all terrorists? No doubt you believe they're guests in OUR country, that without us they wouldn't be able to feed and clothe themselves and so should be greatful, and what, bow down to their British masters?

If you invite somebody to live in your house, you feed and clothe them, keep them safe.

Ah.

British Troops are responsible for the freedoms we enjoy in this country. No matter where they are.
When they were fighting in France and Germany they kept us free from the tyrannies of Hitler etc. The same holds true now.

You really think what remains of the Taliban in Afghanistan present a serious threat to mainland Britain?

If you are British, then Judging by your voiced attitude and support of those supporting the killing of British troops and civilians, you are either a Muslim Activist or a Traitor to your country.

Persecute the non-believer? Do you swear allegiance to Gordon Brown every morning? Clearly to do otherwise makes you a traitor.

I'm not one for blind faith, be it religion or patriotism. I prefer to engage my brain. I don't understand how you Daily Mail types can talk about protecting freedom with one breath, and yet advocate removing freedom in the next.

[Diver]

Erm, who we talking about now? We were talking about the Taliban in Afganistan, yet you've posted a link about the Muslim Council of Britain. Could it be that you assume all Muslims must be the same, that they're clearly all terrorists? No doubt you believe they're guests in OUR country, that without us they wouldn't be able to feed and clothe themselves and so should be greatful, and what, bow down to their British masters?

I was talking about British Muslims going over to Afghanistan to fight and kill British soldiers - Learn to read the posts before commenting >sheesh<

At no point have I stated that all Muslims are Terrorists (learn to read for Christ's sake)

Yes they are Guests in our country, we did not force them to come here, they made that choice, they should be grateful that here the can choose because they have the freedom to do so, a freedom hard won by our armed forces and supported by our system of government, unlike the dictatorships and poverty ridden lands they have escaped from.

You really think what remains of the Taliban in Afghanistan present a serious threat to mainland Britain?

Afghanistan is providing close to 95 percent of the world's heroin. a trade that directly funds Terrorism and detrimentally affects the world as a whole.

Persecute the non-believer? Do you swear allegiance to Gordon Brown every morning? Clearly to do otherwise makes you a traitor.

I swear allegiance to my country, the country of my birth and the country that protects me and mine from Taleban or al Quada scum and their like.
Swearing allegiance to the country that You have chosen to shelter and support you and not to attack that country slyly is the honourable thing to do. It is therefore patently obvious that these British Muslim Fanatics have no Honour and should be exterminated as the Terrorist vermin they are.

I'm not one for blind faith, be it religion or patriotism. I prefer to engage my brain. I don't understand how you Daily Mail types can talk about protecting freedom with one breath, and yet advocate removing freedom in the next.

It is patently obvious that you have in this instance failed to engage your brain.
As for removing freedom, I advocate that they be forcibly given the freedom they so desire in the country they wish to show their allegiance to. in this case Afghanistan.


All Muslim extremists should be routed out and hung along with anybody that supports and promotes their acts of terrorism,

[VectraMan]

Yes they are Guests in our country, we did not force them to come here, they made that choice, they should be grateful that here the can choose because they have the freedom to do so, a freedom hard won by our armed forces and supported by our system of government, unlike the dictatorships and poverty ridden lands they have escaped from.

Including Muslims born here? They had no more choice over their nationality than you and I, yet should they be treated as second class citizens? Should they be forever looked at as not really British?

I swear allegiance to my country

Fair enough. You can't really argue with blind patriotism, anymore than you can with religion or bigotry.

The question is: what is this Great Britain we're trying to protect? Is it one where people are free to think, or is it one where people are only free to think if they agree with the majority? Is it one where being a citizen means something, or where citizenship can be taken away if you disagree with the government? Do we treat people as individuals, or do we persecute people for the beliefs of family members (which is what you said at the start). Do we treat citizens as equals, or are the ones whose ancestors were here first a little more equal than the others? Do we follow the principles of the Magna Carter, something Britain gave the world, or do we throw it away and start detaining people for 48 days without trial? Do we get the population so worked up about a supposed boogeyman in their midst that nobody looks too hard when the government takes away all our rights in the name of freedom?

The latter worked quite well for that tyrannical chap from Austria.

I think Afghanistan was justified (Iraq is another matter), but I'd respect the opinion of anyone who disagreed. Disagreeing to the extent that you take up arms against your own country is extreme, and perhaps very brave, but it doesn't mean you stop being British just because you disagree with the British government, or even the majority of the British people. That's what true freedom means, and that's something I'd like to have.

[Diver]

Including Muslims born here? They had no more choice over their nationality than you and I, yet should they be treated as second class citizens? Should they be forever looked at as not really British?

If they support the acts of terrorism and the killing of British soldiers and citizens, yes. They are nothing but common murderers.

Fair enough. You can't really argue with blind patriotism, anymore than you can with religion or bigotry.

Not Blind! some of us recognize the value of our freedom. You made comments about Gordy, as have we all. Try going to Iran and making the same comments about the their supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. Instant death sentence. Learn to value the freedoms we have

The question is: what is this Great Britain we're trying to protect? Is it one where people are free to think, or is it one where people are only free to think if they agree with the majority? Is it one where being a citizen means something, or where citizenship can be taken away if you disagree with the government? Do we treat people as individuals, or do we persecute people for the beliefs of family members (which is what you said at the start).

Being a Citizen means not supporting another country at the expense of your own. Who do you think supports and funds these scumbags?

Do we treat citizens as equals, or are the ones whose ancestors were here first a little more equal than the others? Do we follow the principles of the Magna Carter, something Britain gave the world, or do we throw it away and start detaining people for 48 days without trial? Do we get the population so worked up about a supposed boogeyman in their midst that nobody looks too hard when the government takes away all our rights in the name of freedom?

Supposed? I imagine 7/7 etc. bypassed your blinkered eyes and feeble intellect

The latter worked quite well for that tyrannical chap from Austria.

And British soldiers, that you are so willing to see killed by those "brave?" terrorists in the name of your so called freedom to disagree. belong to the same armed forces that kept that tyrannical chap from Austria away from our shores.

I think Afghanistan was justified (Iraq is another matter), but I'd respect the opinion of anyone who disagreed. Disagreeing to the extent that you take up arms against your own country is extreme, and perhaps very brave,

Ah! True colours are showing now! Those brave British Muslim Terrorists that have taken up arms against Britain

but it doesn't mean you stop being British just because you disagree with the British government, or even the majority of the British people. That's what true freedom means, and that's something I'd like to have.

You already have it! otherwise your post would be your death sentence.

I suggest that you go join your heroes in Afghanistan, please

[Diver]

We get a bleedin good argument going, and he wanders off!