Reply to: British Fighters Helping The Taliban

[Diver]

damn right. in fact hanging is too good for those bloodthirsty, Medieval b*stards. let's show 'em what happens when you mess with a civilized, rational culture, and chop their blinking heads off with a rusty axe. enlightenment FTW!

Welcome aboard ls

[lambrini_socialist]

Catch them, Hang them and deport their families wholesale to Afghanistan.

damn right. in fact hanging is too good for those bloodthirsty, Medieval b*stards. let's show 'em what happens when you mess with a civilized, rational culture, and chop their blinking heads off with a rusty axe. enlightenment FTW!

[Diver]

I do. Which is why I get annoyed when people like you want to take them away. I suppose deporting your political enemies isn't as bad as executing your political enemies, but I'd rather we were a country that did neither.

Not just deporting the extremist political element, I want to deport the immigrant criminal element as well. We have enough of our own, why encourage or tolerate foreign ones.

And the nail bomber? That was nothing to do with Islamic terrorism. We have a criminal element for sure, but it's one very small element that's singled out.

The nail bomber was a homophobic extremist who should have been hung, right alongside the Islamic extremist bombers

Foreign solidiers fighting invading armies are not terrorists, otherwise you'd have to put all of our WW2 veterans in the same bucket.

Now you have wandered into the realm of surrealistic fantasy

I'd rather not. I much prefer it here. I just hope you don't get your way and here ends up being little better than Iran.

No, in Iran they kill anti Iranians, and I advocate deporting them to the country they Do support and show loyalty to.

Sorry. Sleep got in the way of arguing.

Not a valid excuse when coffee in copious amounts is available

[VectraMan]

Not Blind! some of us recognize the value of our freedom. You made comments about Gordy, as have we all. Try going to Iran and making the same comments about the their supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. Instant death sentence. Learn to value the freedoms we have

I do. Which is why I get annoyed when people like you want to take them away. I suppose deporting your political enemies isn't as bad as executing your political enemies, but I'd rather we were a country that did neither.

Supposed? I imagine 7/7 etc. bypassed your blinkered eyes and feeble intellect

And the nail bomber? That was nothing to do with Islamic terrorism. We have a criminal element for sure, but it's one very small element that's singled out.

Ah! True colours are showing now! Those brave British Muslim Terrorists that have taken up arms against Britain

Foreign solidiers fighting invading armies are not terrorists, otherwise you'd have to put all of our WW2 veterans in the same bucket.

I suggest that you go join your heroes in Afghanistan, please

I'd rather not. I much prefer it here. I just hope you don't get your way and here ends up being little better than Iran.

We get a bleedin good argument going, and he wanders off!

Sorry. Sleep got in the way of arguing.

[Diver]

ask your mum

[Troll]

That's very true. Was your dad thick too?

ask your mum

[sasguru]

Verily… ‘The son shall inherit the sin of the father’

That's very true. Was your dad thick too?

[Troll]

Diver, you are wrong to advocate the removal/persecution of family members because of the actions of a member of said family.

That is just Stalinist.

Verily… ‘The son shall inherit the sin of the father’

[Archangel]

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They are not British in my opinion, They are merely UK passport holders.

Catch them, Hang them and deport their families wholesale to Afghanistan. If they want to support the Taliban, then ship the lot over there to live the life they want to support so much.

Stop being such a wishy-washy liberal Diver!

[daviejones]

I know, but it winds people up something rotten

Nah, you were right...kick them out, freeze their assets and distribute them to the families of injured servicement!!!

[Diver]

Diver, you are wrong to advocate the removal/persecution of family members because of the actions of a member of said family.

That is just Stalinist.

I know, but it winds people up something rotten

[Moscow Mule]

Diver, you are wrong to advocate the removal/persecution of family members because of the actions of a member of said family.

That is just Stalinist.

[Diver]

We get a bleedin good argument going, and he wanders off!

[Diver]

Including Muslims born here? They had no more choice over their nationality than you and I, yet should they be treated as second class citizens? Should they be forever looked at as not really British?

If they support the acts of terrorism and the killing of British soldiers and citizens, yes. They are nothing but common murderers.

Fair enough. You can't really argue with blind patriotism, anymore than you can with religion or bigotry.

Not Blind! some of us recognize the value of our freedom. You made comments about Gordy, as have we all. Try going to Iran and making the same comments about the their supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. Instant death sentence. Learn to value the freedoms we have

The question is: what is this Great Britain we're trying to protect? Is it one where people are free to think, or is it one where people are only free to think if they agree with the majority? Is it one where being a citizen means something, or where citizenship can be taken away if you disagree with the government? Do we treat people as individuals, or do we persecute people for the beliefs of family members (which is what you said at the start).

Being a Citizen means not supporting another country at the expense of your own. Who do you think supports and funds these scumbags?

Do we treat citizens as equals, or are the ones whose ancestors were here first a little more equal than the others? Do we follow the principles of the Magna Carter, something Britain gave the world, or do we throw it away and start detaining people for 48 days without trial? Do we get the population so worked up about a supposed boogeyman in their midst that nobody looks too hard when the government takes away all our rights in the name of freedom?

Supposed? I imagine 7/7 etc. bypassed your blinkered eyes and feeble intellect

The latter worked quite well for that tyrannical chap from Austria.

And British soldiers, that you are so willing to see killed by those "brave?" terrorists in the name of your so called freedom to disagree. belong to the same armed forces that kept that tyrannical chap from Austria away from our shores.

I think Afghanistan was justified (Iraq is another matter), but I'd respect the opinion of anyone who disagreed. Disagreeing to the extent that you take up arms against your own country is extreme, and perhaps very brave,

Ah! True colours are showing now! Those brave British Muslim Terrorists that have taken up arms against Britain

but it doesn't mean you stop being British just because you disagree with the British government, or even the majority of the British people. That's what true freedom means, and that's something I'd like to have.

You already have it! otherwise your post would be your death sentence.

I suggest that you go join your heroes in Afghanistan, please

[VectraMan]

Yes they are Guests in our country, we did not force them to come here, they made that choice, they should be grateful that here the can choose because they have the freedom to do so, a freedom hard won by our armed forces and supported by our system of government, unlike the dictatorships and poverty ridden lands they have escaped from.

Including Muslims born here? They had no more choice over their nationality than you and I, yet should they be treated as second class citizens? Should they be forever looked at as not really British?

I swear allegiance to my country

Fair enough. You can't really argue with blind patriotism, anymore than you can with religion or bigotry.

The question is: what is this Great Britain we're trying to protect? Is it one where people are free to think, or is it one where people are only free to think if they agree with the majority? Is it one where being a citizen means something, or where citizenship can be taken away if you disagree with the government? Do we treat people as individuals, or do we persecute people for the beliefs of family members (which is what you said at the start). Do we treat citizens as equals, or are the ones whose ancestors were here first a little more equal than the others? Do we follow the principles of the Magna Carter, something Britain gave the world, or do we throw it away and start detaining people for 48 days without trial? Do we get the population so worked up about a supposed boogeyman in their midst that nobody looks too hard when the government takes away all our rights in the name of freedom?

The latter worked quite well for that tyrannical chap from Austria.

I think Afghanistan was justified (Iraq is another matter), but I'd respect the opinion of anyone who disagreed. Disagreeing to the extent that you take up arms against your own country is extreme, and perhaps very brave, but it doesn't mean you stop being British just because you disagree with the British government, or even the majority of the British people. That's what true freedom means, and that's something I'd like to have.