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The Da Vinci Code

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    #21
    I was rather enjoying this thread until Dazza, Chico and Alexei hijacked it.

    If you want to argue about God yet again, please p!ss off elsewhere and do it. It's as boring as ****. Have you ever wondered why people are leaving this board?

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      #22
      To put it in very basic terms, the Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction. There are various sources quoted in the book that may be verifiable, but ultimately it is just an entertaining story.
      At the beginning of pretty much all of Dan Brown's books he'll say that the story is 'based on real facts'

      That's one way to sell books, the man's got talent, I'll read the next one.

      He's a brilliant storywriter........and he knows how to sell books...


      He has my respect (not that that means anything).
      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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        #23
        Originally posted by AtW
        There is no proof he existed and/or did what the Bible says.
        There is no proof that you exist.

        Christ, on the other hand, is mentioned in Herodotus.

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          #24
          Originally posted by expat
          There is no proof that you exist.

          Christ, on the other hand, is mentioned in Herodotus.
          Sorry, I meant to say Tacitus. but you knew that.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Chico
            Oh dear not sure where to start with this one. Bible work of fiction? Jesus never existed? Boy dazza did you came up with all this all by yourself? Ok The Da Vinci code is fiction - there we agree. I do not want to question your intelligence dazza but in light of the overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ (both Biblical and non biblical) and the historical, scientific, archaeological proof for the Bible - I have no choice really.
            What overwhelming evidence is there that Jesus existed then? Unlike you, I don't blindly follow what some weirdo in a frock has tried to tell me, or the 'facts' in the world's best selling book (the Bible).

            You can't pick parts of the Old and New Testament that may be verifiable and decide that therefore the whole of the work must be true. That's blind faith.

            You think I've read the Da Vinci Code and blindly followed what it said? No. I've been sceptical of the story of Jesus for many years, in fact I only read Dan Brown's books in the last few months. I'm not an atheist, I'm a Christian. Just not as gullible as some Christians.

            As I have said, I have an open mind, if there is evidence to suggest either story I will look at it objectively. Before you assume though - I'm not saying I don't believe in God, just that the stories concerning JC are not only unproven but are inconsistent throughout the book.

            The opinions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John etc as evidence? I'm afraid that's not proof, it's heresay.
            Last edited by dazza12; 17 August 2005, 23:23.
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              #26
              Shock / horror Chico responds with link

              dazza if the Da Vinci Code has shaken your beliefs then I urge to read this
              Sola gratia

              Sola fide

              Soli Deo gloria

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                #27
                Is not the message the important thing, not the messengers?

                The message is "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
                Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
                threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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                  #28
                  Dazza, how can you be a Christian and not believe in Jesus Christ?

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                    #29
                    I never said I didn't believe in JC. I do however think the stories about him are possibly untrue, and the truth is that he was in fact a mortal.

                    The stories of him being of Jewish royal descent do seem to have a bit more weight to them. For a start, mortality can be proven, immortality can't as yet, so it would appear the story of him being a mortal being are more likely to be proven. Yes his beliefs probably did start a new religion, Christianity, but the facts have been distorted for one person's gain (Emperor Constantine). How can a book that was compiled 400 years after Jesus walked the Earth be a true record of the time? And if it is a true record, where's the 40 or so Gospels (one said to be the Gospel of Jesus Christ - probably the most important of all!) that were left out of the New Testament? At least one of these Gospels have been found, and has been dated from the relevant time.

                    Chico, if you read my post properly, you'll know it's not the Da Vinci Code that's shaken my beliefs, I've felt that way for some time. So however much you can find articles that disprove the Da Vinci Code, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference to my own beliefs.
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                      #30
                      Some say that the account of Jesus' life in The Koran is most likely the closest we have, or are ever likely to have, to an accurate account, and even that is highly romanticised. Some sources believe it to be closely based on (possibly even a direct copy of) sections of one of the excised gospels and, unlike the New Testament, was never subjected to post release editorial jiggery pokery.

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