your home is next

[OwlHoot]

the majority of Europeans in the EURO zone and more than satisfied with the single currency and the positive effect it has had on their lives, making it easier to travel and to know in an instant if you are being ripped off abroad

Milan, you live in a dream world. The majority of Europeans, certainly in Italy, Germany and France, are anything but happy with the Euro.

And justifying it by a slight easing of travel (within the EU only of course) is practically infantile, like justifying the Nazis because Hitler eased travel by making the trains run on time.

In any case, it doesn't reduce the risks of ripoffs on average, because if you travel outside the EU your currency conversion arithmetic will be rustier, and if you deny anyone would have that problem then you're admitting that currency ripoffs are not a problem anyway. So I have you by the balls either way.

[milanbenes]

ahh Owl,

I see you are agreeing with me that for travel within the Euro zone the single currency provides consumers with retail pricing transparency and for the majority of Europeans within the Eurozone this is a very valid benefit seeing as the majority of them only travel within the Eurozone domestically.

Milan.

[Churchill]

ahh Owl,

I see you are agreeing with me that for travel within the Euro zone the single currency provides consumers with retail pricing transparency and for the majority of Europeans within the Eurozone this is a very valid benefit seeing as the majority of them only travel within the Eurozone domestically.

Milan.

I'm happy with my pet passport!

[Lucifer Box]

So should old folks with little cash in the bank but big houses pay less council tax? If so, who volunteers to pay more to compensate?

Lucifer in "Devil's Advocate" mode.

[Dundeegeorge]

Hey, how about

basing the amount of local-tax people pay on, say, the number of adults in a house, as more people use up more local resources, and we could call it, say, poll-tax.
Oh no sorry, that's way too fair, and was thrown out before.

[milanbenes]

why not have a standard rate for a house of x

and add another tax y onto the earnings of all workers

that way pensioners are ok

doley's don't pay council tax anyway so they're not bothered

and everybody is happy

Milan.

[threaded]

Lucifer, I like that devils advocate game: why not infact just reduce everyones council tax by abandoning the civils servants pensions linkage.

Just about everyone else in the UK has had to bend over and take it with the Gay Gordons pensions grab, why should not the civil service feel what it is like?

After all, it is only fair.

[AtW]

basing the amount of local-tax people pay on, say, the number of adults in a house, as more people use up more local resources, and we could call it, say, poll-tax.

I have not experienced poll tax, but it sounded pretty darn logical and fair -- currently single person living in the house in Brum gets only 25% discount from main rate, while amount of garbage, police and firemen work surely is nowhere as near as family of 4 living in the same house.

[threaded]

AtW: Especially if them 4 are chavs...

[Churchill]

AtW: Especially if them 4 are chavs...

those? Surely.