Newsnight - Mugabe says only God can remove him

[oracleslave]

We should send him an invitation to come over and watch the much-publicised concert for Nelson Mandela, who along with the rest of SA has remained tight-lipped about the blatant massacres taking part in former Rhodesia.
Is it because the perpetrators are not white?

Bollox:

For starters:

"

Johannesburg - Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe, in his 27th year of rule, is ignoring approaches from former South African president and Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela that he step down, reports said this weekend.
The usually reliable weekly Zimbabwe Independent, quoting unnamed sources, also said that former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan had tried to meet with Mugabe to discuss his retirement, but he too had been ignored. No comment could be obtained from Mugabe's office. "

Or

http://www.thecitizen.co.za/index/ar...esc=68463,1,22

[Moscow Mule]

With incredible skill behind a rifle. That kind of narrows it down to military men. I'd happily train for this task though.

And get your hands on a .50 cal Barrett. Not as easy as the movies might suggest...

[Dow Jones]

Wrong there

Bollox:

http://www.thecitizen.co.za/index/ar...esc=68463,1,22

The 2nd link you've posted says that the Nelson Mandela FOUNDATION said: bla-bla-bla, not Mandela IN PERSON. Has he now lost his power of speech or doesn't want to upset his brother? Same as the rest of the ANC, paying lip service to democracy.
I still can't work out why you've posted Mugabe's glorified CV here.
Are you a ZANU-PF supporter by any chance?

[oracleslave]

The 2nd link you've posted says that the Nelson Mandela FOUNDATION said: bla-bla-bla, not Mandela IN PERSON.

So you have conveniently ignored the first quote then

Same as the rest of the ANC

He is retired, but does still take an active interest in his foundations.

I still can't work out why you've posted Mugabe's glorified CV here.
Are you a ZANU-PF supporter by any chance?

I haven't done anything of the sort. Are you sober?

[Moscow Mule]

Ten a penny down in Swansea, mate... how many do you want?

2 please.

[Lucy]

2 please.

another chambord and pineapple juice while you're there

[Dow Jones]

OK, yeah

Whatever OS.
You know as well as I do that if Mandela/Mbeki/etc SA leaders really wanted to get rid of him, they would have done so by now. Truth is that if MDC were elected, there would be a massive change in foreign investment away from SA (only 'safe heaven' atm) and they don't want that to happen. Would rather have a poor neighbour on their doorstep, rather than a rival as Rhodesia was 30 years ago.

[oracleslave]

Whatever OS.
You know as well as I do that if Mandela/Mbeki/etc SA leaders really wanted to get rid of him, they would have done so by now.

That part I actually agree with

Truth is that if MDC were elected, there would be a massive change in foreign investment away from SA (only 'safe heaven' atm) and they don't want that to happen. Would rather have a poor neighbour on their doorstep, rather than a rival as Rhodesia was 30 years ago.

That sounds like complete bollocks again to me. Have a read here

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/84e2c83e-3...nclick_check=1

It shows that FDI in SA is currently declining, not entirely but potentially because of the unstability. Astable southern africa would benefit all (which is actually what Mbeki often bangs on about in constantly trying to promote his 'baby' the concept of SADC.

Instead we are likely to see the chinese use the unstability to their advantage and plunder the natural resources.

[Dow Jones]

Not

Foreign investment is declining in SA because there is increasingly more visible deprivation and violence, which bring instability, nothing to do with troubles elsewhere, despite what they want you to believe. Inept and corrupt leadership is the main cause, pretty much same reason as in the rest of Africa. Mbeki is on his way out and could be indicted later by the incoming President, Mandela couldn't care less, there you are.
Can't take some at their word - especially SA politicians.

[oracleslave]

nothing to do with troubles elsewhere

So you're saying Zim and investment in SA are unrelated then? In case you forgot.....

Truth is that if MDC were elected, there would be a massive change in foreign investment away from SA (only 'safe heaven' atm) and they don't want that to happen.