Blue Planet in Green Shackles

[Board Game Geek]

I find the best way to engage the "green movement" and help spread the word, is to militantly apply its posturings and credos.

People start off thinking you are a greenie and "doing your bit".

Then you turn up the message, to the point where they are constantly berated, blamed and bludgeoned for their lack of effort.

At which point, they give up.

Mission accomplished.

It's easier to fight the enemy from within, than from outside.

[shelby68]

The only sure thing you can say about science is its a way of quantifying our understanding of something at the present time, how many time has science proved its self wrong with greater understanding , lefts face it they used to give radioactive isotopes to people as a cure for cancer 100 years ago.

On the subject of greener power I think there is a very real conspiracy by a) the people producing fossil fuels and b) the people manufacturing the products that use them, they don't want the expense of re-tooling their production lines to say hydrogen fuel cell cars when there’s still another 30-50 years oil in the ground, the real change will come when the oil runs out and we have no choice but to go green, this is something the green lobby seem to have missed, oil and coal are a finite resource they've only got another 30 years of campaigning then they will be out of a job anyway...

[lambrini_socialist]

the environmentalist cause (and anything else which threatens to fractionally curtail the individual's god-given right to make as much money as possible and do as they please without thinking about the wider impact of their actions) is clearly a loony-leftist consipiracy against Decent Hard Working Common Sense Folk and couldn't possibly have a basis in genuine heart-felt conviction (let alone solid science), right?

on an unrelated note, check this program out, it's magic, and i guarantee it would beat most of you lot in a Turing test.

[tay]

Didnt someone post a story recently on here where it was claimed that green is now a religion for some people? Anybody daring to question your beliefs is evil and should be ignored. If you are a bad person..but recycle.. you are a good person and your sins are forgiven. Some people in this thread are definately almost religous about green matters.

[lambrini_socialist]

Didnt someone post a story recently on here where it was claimed that green is now a religion for some people? Anybody daring to question your beliefs is evil and should be ignored. If you are a bad person..but recycle.. you are a good person and your sins are forgiven. Some people in this thread are definately almost religous about green matters.

vacuous tosh

[DodgyAgent]

The only sure thing you can say about science is its a way of quantifying our understanding of something at the present time, how many time has science proved its self wrong with greater understanding , lefts face it they used to give radioactive isotopes to people as a cure for cancer 100 years ago.

On the subject of greener power I think there is a very real conspiracy by a) the people producing fossil fuels and b) the people manufacturing the products that use them, they don't want the expense of re-tooling their production lines to say hydrogen fuel cell cars when there’s still another 30-50 years oil in the ground, the real change will come when the oil runs out and we have no choice but to go green, this is something the green lobby seem to have missed, oil and coal are a finite resource they've only got another 30 years of campaigning then they will be out of a job anyway...

That's a bit like saying the bow and arrow manufacturers are stifling the development of the gun because they own all the trees.

Do you really think developer, scientists, entrepreneurs are going to hold back on the development of something that will make them billions?

[tay]

the environmentalist cause (and anything else which threatens to fractionally curtail the individual's god-given right to make as much money as possible and do as they please without thinking about the wider impact of their actions) is clearly a loony-leftist consipiracy against Decent Hard Working Common Sense Folk and couldn't possibly have a basis in genuine heart-felt conviction (let alone solid science), right?

on an unrelated note, check this program out, it's magic, and i guarantee it would beat most of you lot in a Turing test.

brainwashed ignorant crap

[lambrini_socialist]

The only sure thing you can say about science is its a way of quantifying our understanding of something at the present time, how many time has science proved its self wrong with greater understanding , lefts face it they used to give radioactive isotopes to people as a cure for cancer 100 years ago.

On the subject of greener power I think there is a very real conspiracy by a) the people producing fossil fuels and b) the people manufacturing the products that use them, they don't want the expense of re-tooling their production lines to say hydrogen fuel cell cars when there’s still another 30-50 years oil in the ground, the real change will come when the oil runs out and we have no choice but to go green, this is something the green lobby seem to have missed, oil and coal are a finite resource they've only got another 30 years of campaigning then they will be out of a job anyway...

there are no big conspiracies, just low-level apathy and good old human fallibility. it would be nice to blame all that's wrong in the world on some big left/right wing (delete as applicable) conspiracy or bogeyman, but the fact is things are the way they are simply because that's just how people happen to be going about their business at this moment in time.

[DodgyAgent]

The only sure thing you can say about science is its a way of quantifying our understanding of something at the present time, how many time has science proved its self wrong with greater understanding , lefts face it they used to give radioactive isotopes to people as a cure for cancer 100 years ago.

On the subject of greener power I think there is a very real conspiracy by a) the people producing fossil fuels and b) the people manufacturing the products that use them, they don't want the expense of re-tooling their production lines to say hydrogen fuel cell cars when there’s still another 30-50 years oil in the ground, the real change will come when the oil runs out and we have no choice but to go green, this is something the green lobby seem to have missed, oil and coal are a finite resource they've only got another 30 years of campaigning then they will be out of a job anyway...

Do you really think that countries like China will collude with the big oil producers upon who they are so dependent on oil & gas to NOT develop the technology to remove this dependence? Do you think that Gazprom would collude with Exxon to halt the development of alternative ways of running armed vehicles and aircraft?