UK Database of ALL phone calls and emails

[Moscow Mule]

At one time (and is presumably still in affect) not giving away encyption keys was punishable by up to 10 years in jail.

That's why you have two levels of encryption - one you give up, which displays some stuff. One which they won't ask for as they won't know it's there.

I'm increasingly in favour of the UK adopting a "US Fifth Amendment" style law.

[Sockpuppet]

At one time (and is presumably still in affect) not giving away encyption keys was punishable by up to 10 years in jail.

Sweet. The stuff I've got my encryption protecting will get me 20.

[TimberWolf]

Not sure 10 years is right.

Yep, on a little further investigation it looks like :

five years in jail if the investigation relates to terrorism or national security, or up to two years in jail in other cases.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10...on_keys_power/

Dunno where I misremembered 10 years, the US perhaps.

[darmstadt]

Well to be on the safe side, I've e-mailed them all my mail archives, all 100gb of them. Hopefully that should help

[ratewhore]

They'll be storing a shed load of spam then won't they?

[lilelvis2000]

I still cannot believe this proposal.

Why have a new law to target everyone, when the security services can get ISP data and phone information anyway from people under suspicion.

Ahhh...but we are all under suspicion. The prime purpose of the UK government is to monitor its citizens..always has been.

Sounds more like a trial balloon though to judge public opinion. We don't like it so it's bound to be implemented.

[EternalOptimist]

IIRC the plan is to record the number you phoned and when, not the content of the call. The email adress you mailed and not the content.

[realityhack]

IIRC the plan is to record the number you phoned and when, not the content of the call. The email adress you mailed and not the content.

Haven't they been doing that for decades anyway?
What's the difference if they just log the exchange and not the content?

[Board Game Geek]

Isn't it usual in situations like this that a bill is proposed in all its full glory, warts and all, and then after the expected outcry, gets watered down by our benevolent political masters for the good of the people ?

[EternalOptimist]

Haven't they been doing that for decades anyway?
What's the difference if they just log the exchange and not the content?

Maybe so, but the plan is to hold it all centrally in one big fck-off database.
I dont think that happens at the moment