Road Rage

[NotAllThere]

No, it takes longer at 70 than at 80

1 minute is longer.

You have to maintain the average speed difference for 9 1/3 miles to save yourself a minute.

It's so easy to lose any advantage that you gain. You hit congestion, and it's all gone. Those cars you overtook overtake you on the inside. Once you hit a 30mph busy town, you might average 20mph if lucky. If that falls to 18mph, every one and half miles you lose a minute.

I used to commute 100 miles each way. I found that home to office, if I stuck around the legal limits, maintained lane discipline,, drove defensively and just relaxed a bit, I tended to arrive within just a few minutes as when driving aggressively, switching lanes, avoiding speed cameras. And far less stressed. Even improved my mpg.

[BrilloPad]

1 minute is longer.

You have to maintain the average speed difference for 9 1/3 miles to save yourself a minute.

It's so easy to lose any advantage that you gain. You hit congestion, and it's all gone. Those cars you overtook overtake you on the inside. Once you hit a 30mph busy town, you might average 20mph if lucky. If that falls to 18mph, every one and half miles you lose a minute.

I used to commute 100 miles each way. I found that home to office, if I stuck around the legal limits, maintained lane discipline,, drove defensively and just relaxed a bit, I tended to arrive within just a few minutes as when driving aggressively, switching lanes, avoiding speed cameras. And far less stressed. Even improved my mpg.

I believe there was an independent survey that came to same conclusion.

[BrilloPad]

You are clearly one of these selfish pr***s that drives as if there is no one else on the road.
Lanes 2 & 3 are for overtaking only. If you are overtaking then do so and then get out of the way if not f*** off back in to lane 1. Cruise control is totally inappropriate for UK roads.

[meridian]

I'm not being selfish. For me it's the height of assertiveness to give myself almost as much consideration as I give others, which is what the procedure I described does. For example, I deliberately vary my speed from my desired 50 to 45 in order to allow someone else to increase theirs from 50 to say 65. Surely "generous" or "selfless" or "polite" is a better word to describe that?

If you were a Londoner (or had read my post more carefully) you would realise that all three lanes are full of traffic. The cars in lanes 2 and 3 are in a persistent state of "overtaking", and most drivers (myself included) do move to the leftmost lane whenever they can.

So you are saying that if lane 1 is doing 30mph, lane 2 is travelling at 45 and lane 3 is doing 65, and the speed limit is 50, I should stay in 2 and never overtake because I would hold up the cars in 3 by overtaking while doing 50? Or should I overtake, but put my foot down so as not hold up lane 3? (Actually in practise I do sometimes put my foot down. In the past I would always get out of peoples way as quickly as possible, I've worked my way up to being willing to hold them up for a few seconds, rather than override the cruise control.)

In practise I do only overtake when there's a few hundred yards of clear lane 3 behind me, it's just that fairly often I will not get back into 2 before someone has come up behind me.

I do agree about cruise control not being intended for use in my road conditions, but it does combat the speed cameras, including average speed cameras on part of my route, so direct your anger at the government. When they stop threatening to penalise me for driving according to the conditions, I'll stop trying to drive according to the law.

So you drive at 50 in lane 3 when the speed limit is 50?? No wonder you're holding up the traffic.

Normal speed in the outside motorway lane is 90-100 for a 70mph limit. Go back to the inside lane, grandma.

[DiscoStu]

I want a car with factory-fit machine guns.

[BrilloPad]

I want a car with factory-fit machine guns.

Only for Wilmslow?

[DiscoStu]

Only for Wilmslow?

Nah, I'd like to be in charge of Uk traffic law and enforcement. Anyone who cuts me up, pulls out in front of me, starts gesturing impolitely, drives like a d!ck or annoys me in any other way gets a bullet in the head.

In time a climate of fear would spread and people would be afraid of meeting the car with the machine guns so everyone would drive properly and be nice to each other.

[El_Diablo]

Nah, I'd like to be in charge of Uk traffic law and enforcement. Anyone who cuts me up, pulls out in front of me, starts gesturing impolitely, drives like a d!ck or annoys me in any other way gets a bullet in the head.

In time a climate of fear would spread and people would be afraid of meeting the car with the machine guns so everyone would drive properly and be nice to each other.

DiscoStu I'd vote for you!

[BrilloPad]

Nah, I'd like to be in charge of Uk traffic law and enforcement. Anyone who cuts me up, pulls out in front of me, starts gesturing impolitely, drives like a d!ck or annoys me in any other way gets a bullet in the head.

In time a climate of fear would spread and people would be afraid of meeting the car with the machine guns so everyone would drive properly and be nice to each other.

Excuse me! I paid road tax - so I own the roads!

I guess you would also want everyone else's car to have a big spike sticking up from the steering wheel - to make them be more careful?

[DiscoStu]

Excuse me! I paid road tax - so I own the roads!

I guess you would also want everyone else's car to have a big spike sticking up from the steering wheel - to make them be more careful?

Nope, if people want to kill themselves it's their own problem. As long as they don't annoy me in the process they're welcome to be as reckless as they like.