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    #11
    Not so Wise

    I recommend that you read both the Old and New Testaments as there were many other religions at that time. Islam in its current form did not exist then but its characteristics were evident in other religions which may or may not have been the template for Islam.
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      #12
      Originally posted by Chico
      Not so Wise

      I recommend that you read both the Old and New Testaments as there were many other religions at that time. Islam in its current form did not exist then but its characteristics were evident in other religions which may or may not have been the template for Islam.
      Chico ...It's no good acting like a know-it-all only when it suits you. How about finally answering my question about whether or not you agree with the following advice from the bible:
      Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

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        #13
        Deuteronomy 13
        Worshiping Other Gods

        1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
        6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

        12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, [a] both its people and its livestock. 16 Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt. 17 None of those condemned things [b] shall be found in your hands, so that the LORD will turn from his fierce anger; he will show you mercy, have compassion on you, and increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your forefathers, 18 because you obey the LORD your God, keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.

        As discussed the other day - Obey the ten commandments!!!!!!!!
        Sola gratia

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          #14
          Thank you for finally answering the question. So you do believe in it. That really is alarming Chico. So how exactly are you different from these crazed suicide bombers? I'm sure they too would argue that the resident infidels in London were worshipping the wrong God.

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            #15
            Considering that was a specific request for a specific group of people at a specific time it does not follow that it applies all for all time unlike the Ten Commandments . If we followed your logic because God asked Solomon to build a temple in Jerusalem should I building one temple too? Go take your primary school objections somewhere else.
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              #16
              Originally posted by Chico
              Considering that was a specific request for a specific group of people at a specific time it does not follow that it applies all for all time unlike the Ten Commandments . If we followed your logic because God asked Solomon to build a temple in Jerusalem should I building one temple too? Go take your primary school objections somewhere else.
              The passage I quoted was from Deuteronomy which is also the source for some the the 10 commandments. What logic are you applying in which passages you choose to follow and which one you choose to ignore. If you accept that parts of the bible are indeed a nonesense in today's world, why advocate the ten commandments at all?

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                #17
                Can we hope ...

                ... Good question ALM, but I fear you won't get a straight answer ...

                So I'll answer the question instead. There is NO justification for picking one part of the Bible over another. And yes, the difference between the Bombers and Chico is just a matter of degree. For men to live free and happy, we need to get rid of the virus of religion.
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ALM
                  The passage I quoted was from Deuteronomy which is also the source for some the the 10 commandments.
                  It is only part of the source for the 10 commandments...it is not the 10 commandments however.

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                    #19
                    all holy books are bloodthirsty and bigoted IMO I wont go quite as far as to say the same thing about religious people but you can see where some of them get their ideas from.
                    All that is necessary for evil members to succeed is that good members post nothing

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                      #20
                      paki

                      pakis are the scum of the earth. never had any good experience with a paki in UK and elsewhere, they are treacherous and dishonest.
                      No wonder most of the suicide bombers are paki.

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