The Lady's not for turning !!!

[EqualOpportunities]

Thatcher was an evil witch. She was rotten to the core, and the truth was not in her.

Your faith in her, which I shall assume to be sincere and not trolling (since so many people adhere to the same deluded misinterpretations of history as yourself) is symptomatic of a lack of knowledge of, or an inability to understand, the actual facts of life for the general population under her regime.

A cherry-picking of whichever superficially attractive historical details (mainly falsified and distorted) might allow you to support your attitudes, thereby evading the risk of having to face up to the fact that she was, like every other politician, a self-serving bastard, does not suggest an informed opinion, but more a religious faith.

There are no easy solutions. There is no fairy godmother. There never was a golden age. But I can assure you that, for the majority of people in this country, life was a bloody sight worse under Thatcher than it is today.

Garbage my good man, garbage. But excellent trolling; well done

Baroness Thatcher is a heroine. Only left-wing, namby pamby vegetarians think differently.

Amen.

[NickFitz]

Garbage my good man, garbage. But excellent trolling; well done

Baroness Thatcher is a heroine. Only left-wing, namby pamby vegetarians think differently.

Amen.

Not trolling, just the truth. And I'm not a vegetarian.

[EqualOpportunities]

Not trolling, just the truth. And I'm not a vegetarian.

You are clearly a vegetarian in denial.

[BrilloPad]

Thatcher was an evil witch. She was rotten to the core, and the truth was not in her.

Your faith in her, which I shall assume to be sincere and not trolling (since so many people adhere to the same deluded misinterpretations of history as yourself) is symptomatic of a lack of knowledge of, or an inability to understand, the actual facts of life for the general population under her regime.

A cherry-picking of whichever superficially attractive historical details (mainly falsified and distorted) might allow you to support your attitudes, thereby evading the risk of having to face up to the fact that she was, like every other politician, a self-serving bastard, does not suggest an informed opinion, but more a religious faith.

There are no easy solutions. There is no fairy godmother. There never was a golden age. But I can assure you that, for the majority of people in this country, life was a bloody sight worse under Thatcher than it is today.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. but I disagree.

She cut red tape. And cut the unions. She laid the foundation of the later economic success that liebour threw away.

My one regret is that I think manufacturing suffered too much. I believe the UK is still world's 5th biggest manufacturer(I think I read that somewhere?).

[pisces]

Thatcher left office almost 20 years ago, have the last 20 years been that bad? I'd say the 80s were far more grim than the 90s or the 00s

I'd say the 70's were far more grim than the 80's. Especially the period under Labour.

[expat]

How this country misses Thatcher and government competence!!


I have just heard that at long last cannabis is to be reclassified because declassification has been such an enormous failure.

Ah, so the government changes its mind in the light of the evidence. It is true, you couldn't accuse Thatcher of that.

[pisces]

Thatcher was an evil witch. She was rotten to the core, and the truth was not in her.

Your faith in her, which I shall assume to be sincere and not trolling (since so many people adhere to the same deluded misinterpretations of history as yourself) is symptomatic of a lack of knowledge of, or an inability to understand, the actual facts of life for the general population under her regime.

A cherry-picking of whichever superficially attractive historical details (mainly falsified and distorted) might allow you to support your attitudes, thereby evading the risk of having to face up to the fact that she was, like every other politician, a self-serving bastard, does not suggest an informed opinion, but more a religious faith.

There are no easy solutions. There is no fairy godmother. There never was a golden age. But I can assure you that, for the majority of people in this country, life was a bloody sight worse under Thatcher than it is today.

I can assure you life was a lot worse under William Lamb's reign than it was under Thatcher. It's a little thing called progress.

HTH

[snaw]

It's all about perspective.

For some she was a modern day heroine, for others (me inc) she was the worst British politician in a lifetime. Give her her dues, she did some good things and at least she believed in her policies.

Pointless argument anyway, everyone's mind is made up on Thatcher and tub thumping isn't going to change anyone's mind at this late date.

Take away the economic stuff and her legacy has many negatives (Political and social). Event the economic stuff is debatable in parts (Though overall she left a decent economic legacy but let's not pretend it was all golden).

[expat]

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. but I disagree.

She cut red tape. And cut the unions. She laid the foundation of the later economic success that liebour threw away.

My one regret is that I think manufacturing suffered too much. I believe the UK is still world's 5th biggest manufacturer(I think I read that somewhere?).

And cut the grammar schools (Thatcher closed more than all Labour governments put together).

"one regret is that I think manufacturing suffered too much" - a bit of a big one that. Add in social cohesion and you get the impoverished chav-ridden crime-beset Me-Me-Me waste land that is Britain today, except possibly in
some outlying areas that never quite accepted enough Thatcherism.

"Later economic success"? "leibor threw away"? It's powerful stiff you're smoking there. She sold the family silver to bribe her friends, and even sold what wasn't hers to sell (TSB).

[threaded]

I'd say the 70's were far more grim that than the 80's. Especially the period under Labour.

Who governs Britain?
It was all a bit of a 'Deus ex Machina' wasn't it though? Succesive governments had allowed coal stocks to decline to the point of threatening national security, which happened when there was a dip in the oil supply and the country found itself being held to ransom by a bunch of rabid pinkos.

One of the things Thatcher did was ramp up the coal stocks and when there really wasn't any room to stockpile anymore told the miners leaders to go swivel.

She did what had to be done, if not her, someone else would have had to do the same.

The destruction of industry was inevitable. That chain of events started there with the Labour parties 'profiteering taxes' at the end of WWII which prevented industry from renewing and upgrading equipment, and pushed the iron and steel industry into nationalisation.