Immigration thread to re-balance the forum

[expat]

Don't be silly, expat. People from Yorkshire can't afford to move to London.

And mostly wouldn't want to.

[PAH]

Try visiting Scotland or - closer to home - Cambridgeshire. Plenty of quiet open space there.

Not for much longer with brownstuff saying they'll build 70,000 new homes each year.

[sasguru]

And mostly wouldn't want to.

Can't blame 'em. They wouldn't fit in with their thick accents, smocks and straw-chewing habit.

[Xenophon]

And mostly wouldn't want to.

True. Too many non-Yorkshire folk down here. Plus, they would get nose bleeds coming this far south.

[Spacecadet]

Try visiting Scotland or - closer to home - Cambridgeshire. Plenty of quiet open space there.

Agreed, there's huge amounts of open green space in this country, just most people decide to live on top of one another

[expat]

...it's got nothing to do with race its simple maths, we just don't have the space, schools are over crowded, waiting lists are on the way back up at hospital despite the extra cash, with an extra X' thousand people a year in the country it's no surprise.

Wrong, I'm afraid:

1. It's not simple maths, we do have the space. Whether we want the population density that results is another question, but we can (and will) do it.

2. It is simple maths: public services don't work because we don't spend enough on them. Holland is much more crowded than the UK, but it mostly works.

We do pay high enough tax rates, I'd say: the problem is that that does not translate to enough money in the public purse. Our social infrastructure is falling apart because we do not have the money to spend on it. We are suffering the results of not making enough money as a nation, not the results of being overcrowded.

(I am ignoring government incompetence here, though it probably is a factor).


I agree about the place feeling overcrowded: I'm from Scotland and it find most of Scotland too crowded for my taste (and I am NOT referring to English incomers).

[Spacecadet]

Today it's not who they are or where they're from, it's the huge numbers. This island is too small and it's being swamped.

Makes you sound like a daily mail reader

[tay]

We should just kick all foreigners out they are stealing our jobs.

It is simple maths: public services don't work because we don't spend enough on them. Holland is much more crowded than the UK, but it mostly works.

Not true anymore.

[PAH]

We are suffering the results of not making enough money as a nation, not the results of being overcrowded.

What are the major causes of that?

Does the fact that many of the immigrants/migrants regularly send their spare hard-earned income back to their families abroad have a significant impact? Sort of a cash drain.

[PAH]

Makes you sound like a daily mail reader

I often dumb down my comments so I can understand them.