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    #21
    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
    Thus bringing house prices back to historical norms... winners and losers as per usual, move along, nothing to see.

    There are people who own houses who believe they cannot fall in price, they can't remember negative equity and their whole financial wellbeing is tied up in the assumption of ever accumulating equity. That's why it is "different this time" is so much as it could be the biggest f up we have seen.
    The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

    But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
      There are people who own houses who believe they cannot fall in price, they can't remember negative equity and their whole financial wellbeing is tied up in the assumption of ever accumulating equity. That's why it is "different this time" is so much as it could be the biggest f up we have seen.
      So, same as last time then? My folks could remember the housing crash of 1972 (?) while all those 80's yuppies were whining about negative equity (in 1992)

      Edit: Maybe it wasn't '72 but early 70's I can't remember!
      Last edited by Platypus; 3 April 2008, 10:52.

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        #23
        Originally posted by threaded View Post
        Whereabouts is it?

        I had the most wonderful contract once, it entailed sitting by/in the pool of a hotel near Paphos, posting to this (or was it the previous) board from a laptop wrapped in a surgical waste bag, and proof-reading/correcting a pile of cryptography books that the client, a publisher, was going to publish/reprint.

        Keep thinking of going back, this time for a holiday.
        It's midway between Coral Bay and Paphos, Near the Tomb of the Kings road, 150m from the sea.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
          It's midway between Coral Bay and Paphos, Near the Tomb of the Kings road, 150m from the sea.
          Better sell it for any price before the Global Warming gets it...

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            #25
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            Better sell it for any price before the Global Warming gets it...
            You can have it for £10K cash aTw.

            Oh I forgot, you can't afford it at that price.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Platypus View Post
              So, same as last time then? My folks could remember the housing crash of 1972 (?) while all those 80's yuppies were whining about negative equity (in 1992)

              Edit: Maybe it wasn't '72 but early 70's I can't remember!
              No not same as the last time, the likes of your parents weren't heavily borrowing on the rising value of their houses (certainly not to the extent of now). People remembered house prices falling there was no sentiment of houses being a one way bet. It has the potential to be much worse than last time.
              The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

              But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                #27
                Bring it on, for someone like me who has over 50% equity and wants to move from an average 3 bed semi to a 4/5 there's no downside.

                300k -27% easily outweighs 200k -27% ...kerching!
                Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                  No not same as the last time, the likes of your parents weren't heavily borrowing on the rising value of their houses
                  That's a good point.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
                    Bring it on, for someone like me who has over 50% equity and wants to move from an average 3 bed semi to a 4/5 there's no downside.

                    300k -27% easily outweighs 200k -27% ...kerching!
                    Prices don't fall (or grow) universally - some places (the ones you want to buy) will fall by 17%, but others (like yours) could fall by 37%.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Prices don't fall (or grow) universally - some places (the ones you want to buy) will fall by 17%, but others (like yours) could fall by 37%.
                      I'll be buying in the same area so the percentage of the larger sum is greater than that of a smaller sum, also higher end properties will suffer bigger percentage drops than average houses... win win.
                      Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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