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    #11
    Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
    The market does not set the prices. How much the client needs you sets the prices. I have to agree with thunderlizard - you and your fellow 'contractors' (and I use the term loosely here) need to grow a pair...
    Agree with that, for SC'ed and especially DV'ed roles the pool isn't that large, and getting smaller, and if it weren't for the clients insisting on seeing markups the agents would be gouging even more than they currently do. I reckon agencies average 10-12% over their normal markup for secure roles. And for what? There's actually less work involved! So, I'd suggest that the contractor taking this position is only chopping off a little more of the fat for themself.
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      #12
      you and your fellow 'contractors' (and I use the term loosely here) need to grow a pair...
      I'd love to, but we've all seen what happened to the last 2 who decided to grow a pair...they got them chopped off.
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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        #13
        All the SC roles that I've worked in have been on a fixed margin basis to the client, so there's no scope for getting more money from the agency.

        You agreed the rate, you should stick to it at least until you can prove that you might actually be worth paying the agreed rate, never mind an inflated one.
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          #14
          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          All the SC roles that I've worked in have been on a fixed margin basis to the client, so there's no scope for getting more money from the agency.
          Are you sure it is "fixed margin" and not "margin cap"?
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            #15
            Originally posted by threaded View Post
            Are you sure it is "fixed margin" and not "margin cap"?
            AFAIK, catalist companies are on fixed margins.

            That's what the client has always told me (as well as the agency).
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
              AFAIK, catalist companies are on fixed margins.

              That's what the client has always told me (as well as the agency).
              The agency saying they take a fixed percentage and the agency actually taking a fixed percentage are two different things.

              There have been stories over the years of contractors finding out the actual margin is wildly different...
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                #17
                And a little bird tells me...

                Oh, and what a coincidence: a little birdy (actually two) phoned me up yesterday evening and told me there's a big new project in the offing just off the A40 junction with the M5, and they're more than desperate for 75+ warm bodies.

                Further more, apparently they've recently suffered severe attrition due to the HMRC slamming a good few contractors over the IR35 unfriendly contracts, so they've walked.

                You often wonder whose side those monkeys at the HMRC are on (actually I think there're a good few at the HMRC that ought to be the ones getting a good probing, and that's not just my opinion). Whatever happened to the Welsh twins, did they retire or something?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by trsisko View Post
                  Hi there fellow contractor's as a low level contractor I am starting work on a gov't contract, my friend who is currently working there is going through the same IT agency turns out he is almost 100pound ...
                  So what have you decided to do?
                  Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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