Was Brian Ashton right about Danny Cipriani?

[DodgyAgent]

Dead right - he should have been home tucked up in bed, Gobtulipe

with you?

[cailin maith]

with you?

If he was playing Ireland maybe.... I could ruin him for the match then

[DodgyAgent]

If he was playing Ireland maybe.... I could ruin him for the match then

They better beat Wales are you up for a threesome with Duncan and Adam Jones?

[cailin maith]

They better beat Wales are you up for a threesome with Duncan and Adam Jones?

I'll check my diary

[rootsnall]

It is the ultimate team game, and it should be played by every state school. It teaches team work at the same time as it encourages individualism (Danny has taken that bit too far). It teaches self control in a competitive physical and intense environment, it teaches communication skills and respect for authority and it gives boys in particular a confidence and level of self esteem that goes beyond the pitch or training field. Whilst it is not for every boy, it accommodates all boys of all shapes and sizes. I challenge you to watch next Thursdays "rugby club" on Sky TV; the bit with Austin Healey teaching Liverpool chavvy unemployeds how to play the game.
It also knocks out arrogance, big heads are humiliated and rugby is not an environment for people who take themselves too seriously. Unless you are an All Black of course, but look what happened to them

Show me a former or current rugby player and I will show you a confident communicator.

The problem is that rugby has started taking itself too seriously. Money has wrecked club rugby in just 10 years and along with it much of the ethos you are talking about above. The sport has collapsed at school level in my neck of the woods so I don't see how it is going to recover with the current attitude of the people running the game.

[BrilloPad]

The problem is that rugby has started taking itself too seriously. Money has wrecked club rugby in just 10 years and along with it much of the ethos you are talking about above. The sport has collapsed at school level in my neck of the woods so I don't see how it is going to recover with the current attitude of the people running the game.

Disagree. Brian Moore in Telegraph said he would never have behaved like that - even when players were not paid.

Isn't the reason it has collapsed in schools to do with H&S?

[tay]

Show me a former or current rugby player and I will show you a confident communicator.

Why thank you my fine erudite friend.

It also knocks out arrogance, big heads are humiliated

I am of course an exception.

[DodgyAgent]

Why thank you my fine erudite friend.



I am of course an exception.

apologies Tay, the temptation was just irresistable. Cheap shot I know

[rootsnall]

Disagree. Brian Moore in Telegraph said he would never have behaved like that - even when players were not paid.

Isn't the reason it has collapsed in schools to do with H&S?

It was the norm to go out on the piss the night before the game in Brain Moores era

H&S might have something to with it and its demise has been going on since before rugby went pro but the RFU seem to be ignoring that fact it is happening and are stupidly throwing money at pro club rugby instead. Without new players the game is dead.

[DodgyAgent]

The problem is that rugby has started taking itself too seriously. Money has wrecked club rugby in just 10 years and along with it much of the ethos you are talking about above. The sport has collapsed at school level in my neck of the woods so I don't see how it is going to recover with the current attitude of the people running the game.

It has become professional and taken aspects of the game (fitness discipline, refereeing, health of players..player falls down he is now surrounded instantly by medics) more seriously but I see no signs that it takes itself too seriously.