Muppets 2........

[oracleslave]

Au contraire, law-abiding citizen I think you'll find.

Doesn't mean you need to police others by being inconsiderate does it?

[The Lone Gunman]

Technically and legally speaking, if you are doing 70mph in the middle lane then nobody should be attempting to overtake you that is not clearly intent on breaking the law. My view is if they are inconsiderate enough to ignore the speed limit then I am perfectly entitled to ignore their light-flashing. If they want to break the law do it in some other flipers lane, not mine.
Now I am not saying I stay in the middle lane all day, but I am certainly not going to increase the number of lane swaps I do to make it easy for boy racers. I will change lanes at a point I deem suitable to me, and not one that suits them.

So you deem one law to take priority? If you are not passing anybody then you should pull over. It is not your job to police other idiots. It IS your job to drive according to the law.
The I am doing 70 brigade are a self rightous bunch of tossers.
My 90 mph does not inconvenience any other road users. Your lane hogging does. I assume that you do not break any other driving laws either?

[PAH]

The I am doing 70 brigade are a self rightous bunch of tossers.
My 90 mph does not inconvenience any other road users.

70 is so slooooow. What are the valid arguments for not progressing the speed limit inline with the cars on the roads and how their safety aspects have progressed since 70 was introduced?


I remember many years ago (possibly as many as 15) that a guy I worked with who was an ex-copper said most times you'll not get bothered for doing 90 on a motorway unless you're being an arse. I've certainly done 80 past coppers sat at below 70 in the inside lane and not had any reaction off them. My logic being that if they're doing below 70 they expect me to overtake anyway. Never dared try 90 though!

I hate those Highways Agency vehicles that look like coppers from a distance, so many people sit behind them doing 60-70, even though they have no power to stop speeders.

[threaded]

I would say that changing lane has to be more dangerous than staying in a lane, hence the safest motorway is one where the number of lane changes is minimised.

No?

Absolutely! It's actually recommended in the book "Very Advanced Driving" by A. Tom. Topper, and I would agree.

threaded in "motorcycle examiner" mode

[bogeyman]

"Very Advanced Driving"

I expect that's what you do when you get behind the wheel / on the saddle.

I expect you do "Very Advanced Tea and Toast Making" when you get up in the morning, before you have a "Very Advanced Dump, Shave and Shower" before going to do some "Very Advanced Contracting".

You're far too advanced for me, old stick.

[Bogey in 'what a pompous tit' mode]

[ASB]

Absolutely! It's actually recommended in the book "Very Advanced Driving" by A. Tom. Topper, and I would agree.

threaded in "motorcycle examiner" mode

That's gotta be either a wind up or out of context, but.....

Many years ago I recall roadcraft (I think) used to advocate NOT indicating.

The context was this. If you plan to not indicate you must then check if there is anybody you need to indicate to in order to ascertain the indicating is not required. This promotes awareness and checks. I can see the logic but never really agreed with this. Also it certainly wasn't the IAM view.

[bogeyman]

Many years ago I recall roadcraft (I think) used to advocate NOT indicating

I think they're called DeathCraft nowadays and have many shares in the Coop Funeral Service.

[ASB]

I think they're called DeathCraft nowadays and have many shares in the Coop Funeral Service.

You could be on to something there - when you consider the significant number of incidents involving police vehicles with their drivers behaving poorly perhaps it is time they got a new book.....

[threaded]

You could be on to something there - when you consider the significant number of incidents involving police vehicles with their drivers behaving poorly perhaps it is time they got a new book.....

Yet another one of my little anecdotes, let me set the scene: I have one of them radar detectors in my car and was blasting about on country roads near Oxford and it suddenly goes off. So I slows down. A few seconds later a mini convoy of seriously fast cars, nose to tail, blasts past me like I'm stood. Thinks to myself that there's trouble up ahead for them... Moments later hear a crunch, and just as I round the next corner I see they're all piled into each other. It was a temporary road works light that'd set the detector off. All the fast cars: the plod on a high speed driving course.

Bet they'd wish they'd had a radar detector, so what if the things are illegal, they save lives, mine being a good one to start with.

[shaunbhoy]

So you deem one law to take priority?

There only IS one law regarding maximum speed TLG. You should check up.

If you are not passing anybody then you should pull over. It is not your job to police other idiots. It IS your job to drive according to the law.

I do, I don't, and I do.

The I am doing 70 brigade are a self rightous bunch of tossers.
My 90 mph does not inconvenience any other road users. Your lane hogging does. I assume that you do not break any other driving laws either?

You breaking the law does NOT inconvenience others yet others sticking to the law inconveniences you. And you have the breathtaking hypocrisy to accuse others of being self-righteous.
For the record, and as I said earlier, I do not in general sit in the middle lane at 70 and DO move over when I deem it safe and sensible to do so. However, and this appears to be where our policies diverge, I do not scream along motorways at excessive and dangerous speeds expecting everyone else to move out of MY way because I am in a hurry and am obviously a better driver than everyone else, or at least I think I might be. That seems to be what you are advocating TLG. Is it? Are you really that good or just, as you come across here, an arrogant t0sser that equates good driving with a heavy right foot? Do enlighten us Lewis!!