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    #11
    The point about ease of access is crucial I think. Why on earth would someone come and work for MyCo for £X/year when they could go to Accenture/KPMG etc, or go contracting directly?
    To be successful a product is essential I think, but then that's a different model to the one I was proposing, where you're effectively selling labour. Clearly if you have a (good, marketable, in-demand) product then you're selling the product and support/training etc rather than just bums on seats.

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      #12
      A mate of mine has done it - creative director, technical director and full time sales manager in a ltd earning proper money - employing offshore coders in India and SA to do the bulk of the work, for peanuts. Makes a tidy living. Was scraping by until he employed the sales chap, and now they have almost more work than they can handle.

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        #13
        Simpler option is to buy £1 share in AtW's SKA, sit back and await the public floatation.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
          Simpler option is to buy £1 share in AtW's SKA, sit back and await the public floatation.
          Some are waiting for it to float alright. Right down the sewer.
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            #15
            seems like the gist is that most people think it could be a good earner, but is probably too much bother, given that most contractors earn a decent enough living just managing themselves.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Cheshire Cat View Post
              seems like the gist is that most people think it could be a good earner, but is probably too much bother, given that most contractors earn a decent enough living just managing themselves.
              Yeah that's the problem with contracting. The gulf between it and permiedom is so big it just keeps on sucking us in. Only a few ever manage to escape into another career path such as starting their own business.
              Feist - 1234. One camera, one take, no editing. Superb. How they did it
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                #17
                Originally posted by PAH View Post
                Yeah that's the problem with contracting. The gulf between it and permiedom is so big it just keeps on sucking us in. Only a few ever manage to escape into another career path such as starting their own business.
                The golden handcuffs
                Don't ask Beaker. He's just another muppet.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by realityhack View Post
                  Was scraping by until he employed the sales chap, and now they have almost more work than they can handle.
                  Thats the key - a real company lives or dies by its sales, customers have a habit of not falling into your lap
                  Coffee's for closers

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                    #19
                    Currently doing this.

                    300K turnover, 2 full time staff and sub out some work.

                    The fun bit is having revenue generated while you take time off.......

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by minsky1 View Post
                      Currently doing this.

                      300K turnover, 2 full time staff and sub out some work.

                      The fun bit is having revenue generated while you take time off.......
                      What's the gross and net margin like?
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