Mohamed Al Fayed

[TheFaQQer]

OK, you got me - his dad wasn't though. I should have been more specific, Diana is the first spouse of an English monarch to be English for quite a while, and one of a very small percentage generally. My overall point still stands, they're not a very English institution when you get even a little granular.

Indeed - since Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon and HRH Prince Albert (Later King George VI) married in 1923.

[shaunbhoy]

Indeed - since Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon and HRH Prince Albert (Later King George VI) married in 1923.

Was not Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon technically Scottish though, despite being born in London?

[TheFaQQer]

Was not Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon technically Scottish though, despite being born in London?

She was born into a family of Scottish nobility (although her father was 14th and 1st Earl indicating both Scottish and English nobility), but was born and baptised in England, so I'd say she was English.

Her father was English and so was her mother.

[snaw]

OK I'll get me coat. They're 100% English born and bred, like Yorkshire pud and fish and chips, plus they single handedly invented the language.

Actually I'm sure I read somewhere that Diana was the first English woman to marry into the throne for several hundred years but that's getting pedantic cause I definitely don't think of the queen mum as a jock.

[shaunbhoy]

The "Royal Family" and "English". They quintessentially go together like.......oh let's see.......I've got it!
Like "Saxe-Coburg" and "Goethe"!!

[Mailman]

oops, looks like you learn something new every day... I had always assumed is was a diminutive of Harold (as in one in the eye Harold in 1066).

That'll learn me to make assumptions hey....

As opposed to "break your legs in half Harald", also of 1066 fame?

Mailman

[Churchill]

Not in upper or upper middle class circles. Normally, it's Will or Wills or some silly nickname. Bill or Billy is reserved for ordinary folk.

Oi what about "King Billy"?

SB, educate the bint!

[bogeyman]

Not in upper or upper middle class circles. Normally, it's Will or Wills or some silly nickname. Bill or Billy is reserved for ordinary folk.

Yes, like Lord Bill Deedes. Born and raised in a castle and educated at Harrow! Just a good honest working-class lad, our Bill.

Know a lot about upper and upper-middle class 'circles' do you Denny?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Went to a committee; they offered me a chair;
Asked me politely to return next year:
But where shall we go to-day, my dear, but where shall we go to-day?

Came to a public meeting; the speaker got up and said;
"If we let them in, they will steal our daily bread":
He was talking of you and me, my dear, he was talking of you and me.

Thought I heard the thunder rumbling in the sky;
It was the Illumanti over Europe, saying, "They must die":
O we were in their mind, my dear

O we were in their mind.

[bogeyman]

Thought I heard the thunder rumbling in the sky;
It was the Illumanti over Europe, saying, "They must die"

'Hitler' surely old boy