Newlove Killers Jailed for Life

[ASB]

So instead of being kicked/beaten to death you get shot.

Quite. It's a huge problem where people are more often armed.

A number of people will also say "won't happen to me because by the time it does I'll have shot the scrote". Reality there are very few people who could actually do that.

[AtW]

Look at America.

Oh feck off with America as example, why you ignoring what happens in France and Germany? They have sensible gun laws there and I call to have even stricter laws than there! It is totally wrong to point to USA with their historical lax attitude towards gun sales and ignore examples of countries that are much nearer where they do it right.

Criminals should be in jail anyway - that's what police should do, they should not be walking about with knifes or illegal guns - I like UK police but they need to be harsher on criminals and stop putting signs "Burglars operating in this area", because putting such sign up means police is admitting they failed to stop criminals, ffs, if they can't deal with yobs scum then good citizens should - but they need to have legal rights to do so and have effective means of doing it, ie armed.

[Alf W]

This guy was kicked to death remember and not shot. The last thing we want is people indulging in Wild West shootouts around the place.

At the moment, gun crime is mostly self-regulating. In Manchester it's mainly gang members shooting each other anyway so scum vs scum is not something that worries me too unduly. Even if it is usually reported that the 15 year old who was shot on his bike at 03:00 in the morning mid-week was a lovely lad with a great future in front of him and was, in no way, involved in drugs and gangs.

[AtW]

No wonder Americans became new superpower - they must have inherited great British spirit that is, based on replies in this thread, lost in this country

[BoredBloke]

Guns are strictly controlled in this country. The people who have them at the moment are those who would fail your test and so would continue to get their guns from other sources. However if you increase the number of guns in the population so you will increase the chances of some of these ending up in the wrong hands.

Your idea that arming the population would make those causing trouble to think twice is correct in a certain respect. They would think that they need a bigger and better gun than the one I may mave. What you would do is ensure that those currently commiting these crimes would be armed with a gun 100% of the time - just incase!

[ChimpMaster]

Bring in Sharia Law for these people.

[Moose423956]

I want one of these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILUXYVUUZrY

That's where I left my car!

[tim123]

And what scheme do they use in France and Germany? It seems to work well there, maybe you think people of this country are not of the same quality as the French and the Germans?

They still respect parental control in Germany. This is a race that waits to be told that they can cross the road FFS.

tim

[AtW]

They still respect parental control in Germany.

I said it clearly I am against USA style sales of guns to basically kids. Minium age should be at least 25, probably 30 with additional requirements of stable employment, family, house, obviously lack of criminal record, lie detector test and more - plus insurance.

[Lucifer Box]

I want one of these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILUXYVUUZrY

Perhaps they could mount those outside off-licenses instead of ultra-sonic speakers?