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Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

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    #31
    Sharia Law is already in Britain.

    linky

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      #32
      Originally posted by PAH View Post
      I think first they're trying the softly softly approach, out breed by 10 to 1, and gain victory by sheer numbers. At that rate in under 50 years it might be whitey that's the minority, especially with all those who can afford to thinking of emigrating abroad.

      So maybe the chavs pumping out brats from 13 onwards is our only hope if we want to keep England all bowler hats and elevenses. Not sure it'll sit to well with the track-suits though.

      I propose a country swap. The immigrants can have this hole and we'll go where there's some sun. The ultimate offshore solution.
      Which country do you propose? There are hundreds of 'em you know. India?
      McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
      Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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        #33
        Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
        Which country do you propose? There are hundreds of 'em you know. India?
        Dunno, but I think we'd better plan it better this time than we did with Australia. Maybe we should call in that loan, all aussies have to come here, and we'll go there.
        Feist - 1234. One camera, one take, no editing. Superb. How they did it
        Feist - I Feel It All
        Feist - The Bad In Each Other (Later With Jools Holland)

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          #34
          Originally posted by PAH View Post
          Dunno, but I think we'd better plan it better this time than we did with Australia. Maybe we should call in that loan, all aussies have to come here, and we'll go there.
          Didn't they just make it easier for Brits to move to Oz anyway? And lets face it, half of Australia is here already anyway.
          McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
          Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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            #35
            Originally posted by M_B View Post
            Sharia Law is already in Britain.

            linky
            This story ad others is fine, it is not realy sharia law taking over. Anyone can do this. If someone assaults you and agrees to suitable compensation then you can tell the Police you are not going to prosecute. Sharia just formalises how the compensation shoul be agreed.


            As I have said before: The real issue is that UK (and other Western) law settles 50% divorce settlements (I know, but lets go with this) for women. It is also possible to bequeth all your moneyto your daughter and other settlementscan be made exclusively to females.
            Sharia is by no means as generous.
            Muslim MEN want sharia so they can divorce easily and cheaply.
            I am not qualified to give the above advice!

            The original point and click interface by
            Smith and Wesson.

            Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
              This story ad others is fine, it is not realy sharia law taking over. Anyone can do this. If someone assaults you and agrees to suitable compensation then you can tell the Police you are not going to prosecute. Sharia just formalises how the compensation shoul be agreed.


              As I have said before: The real issue is that UK (and other Western) law settles 50% divorce settlements (I know, but lets go with this) for women. It is also possible to bequeth all your moneyto your daughter and other settlementscan be made exclusively to females.
              Sharia is by no means as generous.
              Muslim MEN want sharia so they can divorce easily and cheaply.
              Unless they have a pre-nup, which would apply under sharia. As I recall there is the concept of a pre-nup under Sharia....but I'm not sure how many women take it up...or whether men will be forced to pay it somehow (as it is not enforceable under english law).

              I do think that Muslim marriages - the nikkah - should become legal as it has become in other Western countries. Its just silly that it requires two ceremonies to be legally married.
              McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
              Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                #37
                Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
                I do think that Muslim marriages - the nikkah - should become legal as it has become in other Western countries. Its just silly that it requires two ceremonies to be legally married.
                I don't think it's silly at all. In France you are officially married by the state registrar in the local town hall then if you want to be married in a religious ceremony afterwards (whether Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever) that's up to you.

                Division of church and state you see. A very good thing too.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Lucifer Box View Post
                  I don't think it's silly at all. In France you are officially married by the state registrar in the local town hall then if you want to be married in a religious ceremony afterwards (whether Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever) that's up to you.

                  Division of church and state you see. A very good thing too.
                  Same in Germany and Italy (I think).
                  We got wed in Munich. You have to do the registrar then you can do a church job if you want to.
                  I think if the UK wants to be consistant then either all "church" weddings should be as recognised as Christian weddings, or should require all religions to have a registrar ceremony as well as their religious one.
                  Assuming those performing the religious ceremonies can be recognised as "legit".
                  I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                  The original point and click interface by
                  Smith and Wesson.

                  Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
                    As I recall there is the concept of a pre-nup under Sharia
                    Apparently you say 3 times "go away" to your wife and she has to leave only taking what's on her, that's why, apparently, wifes in those countries try to wear all jewellry on them as otherwise they might lose it.

                    Now more seriously - women are not exactly equal under Sharia law, and frankly when they can get stoned for "adultory" (if they get raped) then civilised concept of "pre-nup" is not that significant.

                    I want to live in a democracy, not sharia law - there are plenty of countries where one can follow all sort of backward religions and practices, I don't think UK is the place for those - I don't like Christianity either, but at least they are not blowing themselves and civilians up because of religions views.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      but at least they are not blowing themselves and civilians up because of religions views.
                      In this country no, but in the USA, the religious right had no qualms murdering a doctor who performed abortions.

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