Another what would you do ?

[youwhut]

You cannot die from having 1 drink, you can die from taking bad drugs once.

I do not agree.

Alcohol is a poison. Your body wants to reject it. You could be sick and choke - a bit far-fetched, but true.

[Churchill]

Oh, ok, why is it illegal?

[Denny]

No, I get the impression that Sandy's daughter is the kind of lass who hasn't dabbled in drugs. She's 17 and in the house talking to her mam ffs - Sandy has done a 100% successful job!
Plus her daughter said her friend has "started getting into drugs" - that doesn't suggest a "drug habit" to me - it sugests a 100% over-reactive freak out.

I think I will out you, SA.

This is just another of your wind ups isn't it. It has to be, just to draw attention to yourself and cause a reaction.



First you say a few months ago that the McCanns are guilty of being involved in Maddy's disappearance, long before the McCanns were formally considered suspects. This provoked some outrage on this forum from the more 'just' amongst us who deemed you to be rather harsh and over-reactionary with your 'guilty without charge or proof' stance. Since then, of course, much later on, we've heard in the news that you could have been right at one point when it was reported that the McCanns were possibly considered guilty of drugging their daughter to send her to sleep with tragic consequences.....

This point of view is consistent with the 'don't harm my child or any child or else I'll string you up.'

Now you seem to be saying in this debate that a 17 year old dabbling in Coke is not a child and so has no consequences to worry about.

Hmmmmm....

[snaw]

Let's put some stats on this:

From the national statistics online:

The alcohol-related death rate in the UK increased from 6.9 per 100000 population in 1991 to 12.9 in 2005

In 2006 there was a rate of 1.62 drug-. related deaths per 100000 population

Clearly more people drink that take drugs. Clearly alcohol is a more serious issue in the UK (Based on these stats). Where are out priorities?

[SallyAnne]

One of my cousins took 1 Ecstasy table one time. Triggered paranoid schizophrenia.

I'm not sure where you gets this idea that a 17 year old isn't a child, SA? Or are you still in your early 20s? An 18-year old is a young adult. But most are still pretty child-like.

I work alongside a 17 year old - he is not a child!

I'm 32 - maybe if I was in my 50's I'd think he was a kid...but hopefully I'd still think "this lad can vote, can work, can join the army and die for his country....he's worthy of a little more respect than being called a child".

[Churchill]

Let's put some stats on this:

From the national statistics online:





Clearly more people drink that take drugs. Clearly alcohol is a more serious issue in the UK (Based on these stats). Where are out priorities?

The sooner Scotland gets independence, the sooner our Alchohol related death stats will be sorted.

[Churchill]

I work alongside a 17 year old - he is not a child!

I'm 32 - maybe if I was in my 50's I'd think he was a kid...but hopefully I'd still think "this lad can vote, can work, can join the army and die for his country....he's worthy of a little more respect than being called a child".

Sorry darlin', he can't vote.

[snaw]

One of my cousins took 1 Ecstasy table one time. Triggered paranoid schizophrenia.

I'm not sure where you gets this idea that a 17 year old isn't a child, SA? Or are you still in your early 20s? An 18-year old is a young adult. But most are still pretty child-like.

I've seen people have a bad reaction on a pill. generally it's something they don't try again. In all but a few cases they don't die. I've also seen thousands upon thousands having the time of their life on ecstasy as well - feeling euphoric, dancing their arses off to the music, hugging all and sundy and having an absolute blast. I had a blast in my twenties, as did hundreds of thousands of others - I genuinly feel that anyone who lived through those times and didn't experience what I'm talking about, missed out.

Some more Bill Hicks:

If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, then go home and burn all your records, all your tapes, and all your CDs because every one of those artists who have made brilliant music and enhanced your lives? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL ******* high on drugs. The Beatles were so ******* high they let Ringo sing a few songs.

[NotAllThere]

I work alongside a 17 year old - he is not a child!

I'm 32 - maybe if I was in my 50's I'd think he was a kid...but hopefully I'd still think "this lad can vote, can work, can join the army and die for his country....he's worthy of a little more respect than being called a child".

Sure there are some who are not children. But there's an awful lot who are. And treating someone as not-quite an adult, and therefore needing a little bit more careful handling, is, I think, being MORE respectful.

I should add I do a lot of work with teenagers age 14-19. I endeavour to treat them all with respect as individuals, appropriate to their age. But they're still mainly kids.

[oracleslave]

I've seen people have a bad reaction on a pill. generally it's something they don't try again. In all but a few cases they don't die.
Some more Bill Hicks:

So your effectively willing to play russian roulette with your own life and ok to have your kids gamble with their lives in the hope they will be fine?