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    Skills shortage?

    http://www.jobserve.com/WB2D905A22865E6BF.job

    "Junior Project Coordinator - please do not apply if you are a Project Manager - this really is a junior role."

    That in itself gets me cross. I know they mean "the rate is completely daffodils" but isn't that the contractor's decision? I thought the big selling point of employing contractors was you get more than you ask for? (Personally I'd rather go and do this for 3 months than keep sitting on the bench.)

    The detail of the role then goes on to say "experience with MS Project, Excel spreadsheets and project milestones. You will have experience of working on numerous concurrent projects. You will have the experience and skills to take close control of all aspects of the project reporting from budgets, timescales and project plans. The role requires that you be aware of risks, issues and timescales associated with the project and be able to take steps to attain satisfactory quality levels."

    That list of expectations is more than some of the project managers I have worked with are capable of. The reality is, they want a fairly new project manager, perhaps done the training but not got the job yet.

    As far as I can see, this whole 'skills shortage' thing is a load of old cobblers.

    Discuss.
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    #2
    Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
    http://www.jobserve.com/WB2D905A22865E6BF.job

    "Junior Project Coordinator - please do not apply if you are a Project Manager - this really is a junior role."

    That in itself gets me cross. I know they mean "the rate is completely daffodils" but isn't that the contractor's decision? I thought the big selling point of employing contractors was you get more than you ask for? (Personally I'd rather go and do this for 3 months than keep sitting on the bench.)

    The detail of the role then goes on to say "experience with MS Project, Excel spreadsheets and project milestones. You will have experience of working on numerous concurrent projects. You will have the experience and skills to take close control of all aspects of the project reporting from budgets, timescales and project plans. The role requires that you be aware of risks, issues and timescales associated with the project and be able to take steps to attain satisfactory quality levels."

    That list of expectations is more than some of the project managers I have worked with are capable of. The reality is, they want a fairly new project manager, perhaps done the training but not got the job yet.

    As far as I can see, this whole 'skills shortage' thing is a load of old cobblers.

    Discuss.
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      #3
      If you want the job so badly, just dumb down your CV.

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        #4
        If you need a hand dumbing down, ask Milan.

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          #5
          Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
          http://www.jobserve.com/WB2D905A22865E6BF.job

          "Junior Project Coordinator - please do not apply if you are a Project Manager - this really is a junior role."

          That in itself gets me cross. I know they mean "the rate is completely daffodils" but isn't that the contractor's decision? I thought the big selling point of employing contractors was you get more than you ask for? (Personally I'd rather go and do this for 3 months than keep sitting on the bench.)

          The detail of the role then goes on to say "experience with MS Project, Excel spreadsheets and project milestones. You will have experience of working on numerous concurrent projects. You will have the experience and skills to take close control of all aspects of the project reporting from budgets, timescales and project plans. The role requires that you be aware of risks, issues and timescales associated with the project and be able to take steps to attain satisfactory quality levels."

          That list of expectations is more than some of the project managers I have worked with are capable of. The reality is, they want a fairly new project manager, perhaps done the training but not got the job yet.

          As far as I can see, this whole 'skills shortage' thing is a load of old cobblers.

          Discuss.
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            #6
            They’re trying it on, it makes me think of all the ads asking for 1st line helpdesk saying “you will have” MCSE, at least 2 years banking experience, degree etc etc all for £12/h…

            Who’s saying there’s a skills shortage?
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              #7
              What are they trying on?

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                #8
                Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                If you need a hand dumbing down, ask Milan.
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                  #9
                  They'll soon realise the truth of the old saying "You get what you pay for".
                  Not that I'm bitter.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tay View Post
                    What are they trying on?
                    recruitment agents?

                    Sunglasses and Armani suits most probably
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